Tross wrote:
Pepe wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
:lmao:
As if.
"As if" wot?
It's an expression that means, fat chance of that happening.
Kraichgauer wrote:
Modern democracies rarely if ever attack their neighbors without provocation. So I hardly doubt that Russia would be in any danger. At least not from NATO or Ukraine.
Which is proof that Putin's "concerns" about border security are fake. Given that the current Ukraine president is part Jewish, I also call BS on Putin's "concerns" about Ukraine being a Neo-Nazi state. As a result, I have no choice but to pin 100% of the blame for this conflict on him. The funny thing is, he would have come across as less slimy if he just told the truth, which is that he wants Ukraine to be part of Russia again to expand the reach of his dictatorship.
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
He would still be a monster, but at least he would be an honest one.
The whole de-Nazification thing is a bit more twisted: Zelenski got into office largely due to campaign financing by one oligarch - but he turned out to be actually somewhat western oriented, somewhat anti-corrupt. Ukraine is very far up on the list of the most corrupt counteies in the world, right next to Russia.
BUT. before Zelenski, there was only one anti-Russian party in Ukraine: Svoboda. These guys are actual neo-Nazis, no doubt about that. and in 2012, they got 40% of votes in some of the western, Ukranian-speaking parts of the country. They're ultra nationalist and anti-Russian.
In 2012, the government was a Russian-puppet-government.
This was overthrown by the western oriented movement together with the neo-Nazis. - the neo-Nazis have fallen out of favour with the public since, and the western-neoliberalism oriented Zelenski came in.
Western media pretends Ukranians have always been this democracy loving people, forgetting to mention the Ukranian ultra-nationalists. Putin calls them all neo-Nazi, not mentioning the (by now) majority of western oriented people.
But only a decade ago, the only serious anti-Russianism came from the neo-Nazis.
well, putting this kind of pressure on Ukraine certainly didn't ease the ultra-nationalists, who were on their way out, actually... But Putin isn't making this up out of thin air, his people wouldn't believe that. Like any good lie, there's a grain of trith in it, so people have something to point to when argueing in favour of it
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