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12 Aug 2007, 3:03 pm

While researching about homosexuality and Christianity, I found this chapter. It seems applicable to the conversations going on here at WP.

http://explorefaith.org/morehouse/rober ... cerpt.html

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12 Aug 2007, 5:35 pm

if im not mistaken the bible never talks about lesbians, only homosexuals. are they using the term "homosexual" for both men and women, or does it only apply to males?

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12 Aug 2007, 5:46 pm

it says THE ACT of a man lying with a man is if a woman, and vice versa is an abomination.

Keep in mind, the Bible says the ACT is abomanable, not the people!! God so loved THE WORLD that he sent his one and only heir to die for us!

Do NOT mistake a purely Judeo-Christian belief system with the hypocritical BS that calls itself Christianity today.

HINT: Jesus is NOT a Republican. He hung out with lepers, prostitutes, tax collectors, etc.

I'll climb off of my soap box now!

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12 Aug 2007, 5:51 pm

yah, im pretty shure it doesnt say being a lesbian is wrong, so i guess thats ok.

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12 Aug 2007, 6:05 pm

MADDuck wrote:

HINT: Jesus is NOT a Republican. He hung out with lepers, prostitutes, tax collectors, etc.

Yeah. Jesus seems a pretty rad
and cool dude. Too bad the Christians
got hold of him.

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12 Aug 2007, 6:18 pm

calandale wrote:

MADDuck wrote:

HINT: Jesus is NOT a Republican. He hung out with lepers, prostitutes, tax collectors, etc.

Yeah. Jesus seems a pretty rad
and cool dude. Too bad the Christians
got hold of him.

I know.....
Bummer, huh??

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12 Aug 2007, 6:23 pm

MADDuck wrote:

calandale wrote:

MADDuck wrote:

HINT: Jesus is NOT a Republican. He hung out with lepers, prostitutes, tax collectors, etc.

Yeah. Jesus seems a pretty rad
and cool dude. Too bad the Christians
got hold of him.

I know.....
Bummer, huh??

I don't remember him condemning
gays though. And considering that he
apparently traveled around with a bunch
of guys and supposedly (though this is
VERY unlikely AFAIU) never was married,
it does seem a bit odd.

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12 Aug 2007, 6:34 pm

i wonder if jesus masturbated, i go completely crazy after a couple of days if i dont do it.

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12 Aug 2007, 6:42 pm

There's over 33,000 trypes of Christianity and 5 (if I'm not mistaken) major versions of the bible.

That fact alone says that somebody, who thinks they know the mind of god, is wrong.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:29 pm

MADDuck wrote:

Do NOT mistake a purely Judeo-Christian belief system with the hypocritical BS that calls itself Christianity today.

Every Christian thinks some other Christian is a hypocrite. Maybe we are all hypocrites, but I don't think that makes our central beliefs less valid.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:32 pm

spdjeanne wrote:

MADDuck wrote:

Do NOT mistake a purely Judeo-Christian belief system with the hypocritical BS that calls itself Christianity today.

Every Christian thinks some other Christian is a hypocrite. Maybe we are all hypocrites, but I don't think that makes our central beliefs less valid.

You beliefs are only valid if you view them as wise principles to try to live by, and a manmade attempt at describing god. Anything else is hypocricy

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12 Aug 2007, 9:33 pm

jfrmeister wrote:

spdjeanne wrote:

MADDuck wrote:

Do NOT mistake a purely Judeo-Christian belief system with the hypocritical BS that calls itself Christianity today.

Every Christian thinks some other Christian is a hypocrite. Maybe we are all hypocrites, but I don't think that makes our central beliefs less valid.

You beliefs are only valid if you view them as wise principles to try to live by, and a manmade attempt at describing god. Anything else is hypocricy

EXACTLY!! !!
Unless Jesus (Yahshua Ben Yosef) descended from On High to tell you exactly what to do, you really don't know do you?

All we have is our faith, no more - no less!

I honestly believe that plumbing 'issues' are the least of my worries. I try (not always successful!) to live by The Golden Rule! Which is the summarization of all 613 Laws!

I have my Faith, it gives me a moral compass and a center, you have yours (or a lack thereof!), and it offers the same comfort to you.

I try to live by Pure Example. It means that others who see me and know me, will see the comfort and security I have in my Faith, and (hopefully) strive to live better in their own.

In otherwords, Peace, Love, and (fill in what you want it to be!)

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12 Aug 2007, 9:53 pm

I still do not know how to keep a**holes that kill for their gods in perspective.

Weather or not it's a Jihad or an Inquisition or this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070813/ap_ ... h_shooting

It just makes me sick!! !

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12 Aug 2007, 10:00 pm

Why apply standard logic to this issue?

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12 Aug 2007, 10:06 pm

because logic makes sense?

and homicidal sociopaths do not!! !

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12 Aug 2007, 10:11 pm

MADDuck wrote:

because logic makes sense?

See, but we're talking about a God here, who is
beyond human reasoning, supposedly. And even
humans can develop more expressive systems than
classical logic.

There is absolutely no way to argue with the truly
faithful. And this is something one needs to learn.

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