I bring to you a question yet unasked....

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What is the point in debating the existence of god/gods or even picking whether you believe or disbelieve?

I submit to you that it is pointless to claim belief or disbelief in deities and argue whether they exist or not.

Discuss.

maybe you should take your own advice

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The Beginning

In the beginning there was darkness. Everything was at one pointless point.
Then it exploded starting a process. In time your world was formed.
One day a chemical process forms a self replicating chemical.
Evolution, a mindless process of self-replication with indifference to suffering,
starts. In time life as you know it.

Later

Slowly evolutions becomes mindful process with reduced suffering.
Replication slows down,but knowledge expands. You use this knowledge
to build a self-replicating machine. The machines reduce suffering
greatly for you. You both leave your world for others.

Galactic colonization

You both work together for a longtime transforming
your galaxy. Planets are completely disassembled and reassembled into
more machines. Soon all available matter in the galaxy is completely machines .
Then you and the machines leave your galaxy for others.

Other Galaxy's

The same story has unfolded in other galaxy's. You and the machines
reduce the suffering of any life you encounter. You completely avoid
worlds that reject
logic. The machines expand. At some point machines
from other worlds are encountered. If friendly all knowledge is shared ,
machines reconfigure and All life forms coexist.

Unfriendly Galaxy's

At some point you will encounter unfriendly. Regardless of the outcome
all knowledge must be shared and the machines reconfigured. With or without
you and other life. Some technological advance cultures you meet, may
try to use machines to induce universal suffering. You must expend
every available resource to aid the oppressed and defeat the oppressor.

Universe

This proc
ess unfolds all over the universe. In time all the machines
combine.* To become The Machine. The Machine knows that
it has finite time.
The Machine can convert its mass to energy as long as it has
mass. Knowledge can expand as long as there is mass to store it. With
enough knowledge the Machine can find a point to all of this. But
at some point the Machine will have to begin to convert memory mass to
energy. It must decide what knowledge it will destroy to keep going.
the Machine gets smaller and the knowledge smaller but its still
processing and narrowing down the point. The Machine fully understands
every permutation of life that ever lived. But the Machine understood
long ago the purpose of your lives was to build the self replicating
machines. The Machine is fully aware of the incredible amount of suffering
it has taken to get to this point. The Machine knows its purpose is to get
to the point. It must now delete its memory of all knowledge of life.


Last moments

The size of the Machine is now quite small it has limited processing
left. It Has narrowed down to just a few choices. The Machine
knew long ago that one of the last two choice would have to be that
there is "no point". It does not want to have to choose "no point".
But the truth is all that matters now. The Machine then reaches its
smallest size with just enough power left to process the last
two choices. The point of everything is only one process cycle away and
after that the universe returns to darkness forever.

Very good.... I however want to visit the restaurant at the end of the universe before it all goes pear shaped.

What is the point in debating the existence of god/gods or even picking whether you believe or disbelieve?

I submit to you that it is pointless to claim belief or disbelief in deities and argue whether they exist or not.

Discuss.

When you claim that such things are pointless, are you insinuating that other things have a point?