27 Apr 2023, 10:18 am
My opinion is that Trump is a grifter, isn't really a traditional conservative but just caters to what right-wingers want.
His uncle was MIT professor, I doubt he really believes that global warming isn't real, and is just saying it to appeal to the masses and because America can make a lot of profits from fossil fuels.
His transphobia is manufactured, he seemed trans-friendly before running for office then all of a sudden becomes transphobic as president.
That being said, he seems less racist now than 2016, as of 2023 he seems to have become more civilized.
With him I agree the most important issue right now are nukes and the economy, I believe a Trump presidency would have a low probabilty of WW3 and nukes. That being said, I don't think Biden would be the type of guy to launch the nukes, I think nukes are a non-partisan issue, the biggest threat might be Hillary or even a Republican.
So unless they can provide a better candidate, Trump has my vote. He said he would go Solid Snake on nukes and remove all nukes from society. I think nukes are the biggest issue, if someone could actually remove all nukes from society I think that would be a load off my chest. While I don't agree with him on some issues, I am not going to vote for someone if it means death by nukes. Nukes are really the most important issue imo.
While I don't think Biden would launch nukes on purpose, the enemies of the USA might sense weakness, for instance psychopaths like Putin or Kim might view Biden as weak and get emboldened to go nuclear from that.
As far as economic issues, I think the fact that many right-wingers are global warming skeptics is a problem. At the same time, EVs do mean less profits for America, and battery mining is usually unethical and also causes global warming problems. But if Trump didn't cater to these people I doubt he would have gotten elected in the first place, and they would have just selected some other dinosaur to replace him.
27 Apr 2023, 12:01 pm
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Serious question = Ignoring his criminal past are there any good reasons to vote Trump?
I was considering making a thread with this question but thought it might be a short thread 
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28 Apr 2023, 12:10 pm
His uncle was MIT professor, I doubt he really believes that global warming isn't real, and is just saying it to appeal to the masses and because America can make a lot of profits from fossil fuels.
His transphobia is manufactured, he seemed trans-friendly before running for office then all of a sudden becomes transphobic as president.
That being said, he seems less racist now than 2016, as of 2023 he seems to have become more civilized.
With him I agree the most important issue right now are nukes and the economy, I believe a Trump presidency would have a low probabilty of WW3 and nukes. That being said, I don't think Biden would be the type of guy to launch the nukes, I think nukes are a non-partisan issue, the biggest threat might be Hillary or even a Republican.
So unless they can provide a better candidate, Trump has my vote. He said he would go Solid Snake on nukes and remove all nukes from society. I think nukes are the biggest issue, if someone could actually remove all nukes from society I think that would be a load off my chest. While I don't agree with him on some issues, I am not going to vote for someone if it means death by nukes. Nukes are really the most important issue imo.
While I don't think Biden would launch nukes on purpose, the enemies of the USA might sense weakness, for instance psychopaths like Putin or Kim might view Biden as weak and get emboldened to go nuclear from that.
As far as economic issues, I think the fact that many right-wingers are global warming skeptics is a problem. At the same time, EVs do mean less profits for America, and battery mining is usually unethical and also causes global warming problems. But if Trump didn't cater to these people I doubt he would have gotten elected in the first place, and they would have just selected some other dinosaur to replace him.
Lol wow.
You start of acknowledging he's a grifter, list a bunch of terrible traits, then say he's the best candidate and has your vote because of his grandiose unrealistic grift of a promise that he can rid the world of nukes & some other guy is likely to start a nuclear war.
Lol wow.
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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.28 Apr 2023, 8:50 pm
I know a fundie woman who could spit vinegar while talking about Trump's atrocities, but her words become sweet as honey when she reminds us that he moved the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Of course, to her, that ONE act convinces her to vote for him again.
If Trumpsters could be reasoned with, there would soon be no more Trumpsters.
29 Apr 2023, 11:28 am
His uncle was MIT professor, I doubt he really believes that global warming isn't real, and is just saying it to appeal to the masses and because America can make a lot of profits from fossil fuels.
His transphobia is manufactured, he seemed trans-friendly before running for office then all of a sudden becomes transphobic as president.
That being said, he seems less racist now than 2016, as of 2023 he seems to have become more civilized.
With him I agree the most important issue right now are nukes and the economy, I believe a Trump presidency would have a low probabilty of WW3 and nukes. That being said, I don't think Biden would be the type of guy to launch the nukes, I think nukes are a non-partisan issue, the biggest threat might be Hillary or even a Republican.
So unless they can provide a better candidate, Trump has my vote. He said he would go Solid Snake on nukes and remove all nukes from society. I think nukes are the biggest issue, if someone could actually remove all nukes from society I think that would be a load off my chest. While I don't agree with him on some issues, I am not going to vote for someone if it means death by nukes. Nukes are really the most important issue imo.
While I don't think Biden would launch nukes on purpose, the enemies of the USA might sense weakness, for instance psychopaths like Putin or Kim might view Biden as weak and get emboldened to go nuclear from that.
As far as economic issues, I think the fact that many right-wingers are global warming skeptics is a problem. At the same time, EVs do mean less profits for America, and battery mining is usually unethical and also causes global warming problems. But if Trump didn't cater to these people I doubt he would have gotten elected in the first place, and they would have just selected some other dinosaur to replace him.
Life on Earth was suppose to have ended already according to Al Gore in “An Inconvenient Truth” which I got in the mail from Netflix around 1990. At least some beaches should be under water. Al Gore was former vice president in case no one has ever heard of him.
I am not arguing for or against global warming. I just collect my own little personal facts about it with my limited intellect.
It is true we are only about 10,000 years out from a recurring ice age that covers most of the inhabitable earth. Washington, DC was under a glacier 10,000 odd years ago.
You can fact check me if you want but it doesn’t matter.
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29 Apr 2023, 12:02 pm
29 Apr 2023, 3:03 pm
His uncle was MIT professor, I doubt he really believes that global warming isn't real, and is just saying it to appeal to the masses and because America can make a lot of profits from fossil fuels.
His transphobia is manufactured, he seemed trans-friendly before running for office then all of a sudden becomes transphobic as president.
That being said, he seems less racist now than 2016, as of 2023 he seems to have become more civilized.
With him I agree the most important issue right now are nukes and the economy, I believe a Trump presidency would have a low probabilty of WW3 and nukes. That being said, I don't think Biden would be the type of guy to launch the nukes, I think nukes are a non-partisan issue, the biggest threat might be Hillary or even a Republican.
So unless they can provide a better candidate, Trump has my vote. He said he would go Solid Snake on nukes and remove all nukes from society. I think nukes are the biggest issue, if someone could actually remove all nukes from society I think that would be a load off my chest. While I don't agree with him on some issues, I am not going to vote for someone if it means death by nukes. Nukes are really the most important issue imo.
While I don't think Biden would launch nukes on purpose, the enemies of the USA might sense weakness, for instance psychopaths like Putin or Kim might view Biden as weak and get emboldened to go nuclear from that.
As far as economic issues, I think the fact that many right-wingers are global warming skeptics is a problem. At the same time, EVs do mean less profits for America, and battery mining is usually unethical and also causes global warming problems. But if Trump didn't cater to these people I doubt he would have gotten elected in the first place, and they would have just selected some other dinosaur to replace him.
Life on Earth was suppose to have ended already according to Al Gore in “An Inconvenient Truth” which I got in the mail from Netflix around 1990. At least some beaches should be under water. Al Gore was former vice president in case no one has ever heard of him.
I am not arguing for or against global warming. I just collect my own little personal facts about it with my limited intellect.
It is true we are only about 10,000 years out from a recurring ice age that covers most of the inhabitable earth. Washington, DC was under a glacier 10,000 odd years ago.
You can fact check me if you want but it doesn’t matter.
The glaciers stopped at New York City. Almost EXACTLY at New York City. Long Island is a terminal moraine- the long pile of debris dumped by the glaciers at their southern end. It didnt reach as far south as Washington DC. But NYC was under a mile of ice.
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