A 1940s movie, 1970s rock music, and 2020s Drag Story Hours

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11 Jul 2023, 9:32 am

This Ronald Reagan WWII Propaganda Film Features Patriotic Drag!

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Much of the Republican party’s recent anti-LGBTQ rhetoric has been centered around drag shows and the demonization of those who perform them.

But what if I were to tell you that Republican idol, Ronald Reagan, once starred in a film that featured multiple scenes of drag? Not only that, but the men performing in drag were active US soldiers in World War II who were raising money for the army?

Let me introduce you to the 1943 film, This Is the Army

The film was made as propaganda/fundraising for the US army during WWII. It featured actual soldiers dressing in drag for multiple scenes, for crowds of adults and children alike. And not one, but two Republican politicians were in the movie: Ronald Reagan (yes, that Ronald Reagan) and George Murphy (eventual senator for California).

This movie wasn’t even a small film. It was the highest-grossing movie musical at the time, earning almost triple the earnings of The Wizard of Oz

Of course, this movie is still a product of its time. It has some pretty racist moments, even for the time period. A lot of the humor about the drag involves the conflating of crossdressing and being genderqueer.

However, I think there is an important discussion to be had about the place of drag in America and how it has shifted and changed in the past 80 years.

Since the 1940s, drag has become a lot more associated with the queer community, and has thus been seen as something adult and/or sexual. While drag has always been a favored form of self-expression for the queer community, it is also a form of theatre that ought to be treated with as much respect as any other art form. This Is The Army understood that, featuring multiple forms of drag and even celebrity impressions of Lynn Fontanne.

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I will take the author up about discussing the changing place of drag in the culture. As the author noted drag or androgyny for that matter became sexualized. By the ‘70s there was Alice Cooper, Queen, and KISS lecherously sticking their tongues out.

A number of progressives have pointed to this film as an example of conservative hypocrisy. They are partially correct. What the more innocent 40s film and the 70s rock acts share is that they are they were for the most part about anything but acceptance. They used gender bending as a punch line. The 70s acts were designed for teens to shock their parents. The actual non straight performers such as Elton John and Freddy Mercury hid their queerness and thus avoiding career suicide and letting the kids believe they were in on a joke.

Call it promoting acceptance call it indoctrination but Drag Queen Children's Story Hours are political. Indoctrination to “trans ideology” or not there is hypocrisy in these laws prohibiting these performances that has nothing to do with an 80 year old movie. Nobody is holding a gun to these parents demanding they force their kids to see these performances. The much touted Parents Rights Movement does not apply :roll: .


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11 Jul 2023, 12:09 pm

Elton John hid his gayness for a long time. And it was a big deal when he came out.

But Freddy Mercury? He was the lead singer of an all male band called "Queen". If thats "hiding gayness" then it's hiding it in plain sight. :lol:



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12 Jul 2023, 12:11 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Elton John hid his gayness for a long time. And it was a big deal when he came out.

But Freddy Mercury? He was the lead singer of an all male band called "Queen". If thats "hiding gayness" then it's hiding it in plain sight. :lol:


Elton John, Rob Halford and Freddy Mercury all hid things in plain sight, but the fact that they had to hide things at all shows how strong the closet was in that era.

We all know now, but all three had fans who were surprised by their orientation.


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12 Jul 2023, 1:16 am

funeralxempire wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Elton John hid his gayness for a long time. And it was a big deal when he came out.

But Freddy Mercury? He was the lead singer of an all male band called "Queen". If thats "hiding gayness" then it's hiding it in plain sight. :lol:


Elton John, Rob Halford and Freddy Mercury all hid things in plain sight, but the fact that they had to hide things at all shows how strong the closet was in that era.

We all know now, but all three had fans who were surprised by their orientation.

As I mentioned most of us as teens thought the name "Queen" like "Alice" Cooper was showmanship.


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12 Jul 2023, 3:14 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Elton John hid his gayness for a long time. And it was a big deal when he came out.

But Freddy Mercury? He was the lead singer of an all male band called "Queen". If thats "hiding gayness" then it's hiding it in plain sight. :lol:


Elton John, Rob Halford and Freddy Mercury all hid things in plain sight, but the fact that they had to hide things at all shows how strong the closet was in that era.

We all know now, but all three had fans who were surprised by their orientation.

As I mentioned most of us as teens thought the name "Queen" like "Alice" Cooper was showmanship.



FWIW, the band's name predates the singer adopting it. Sorta like how Pink Floyd had to deal with 'which one's Pink?'.

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We were called the Nazz and we found out about Todd Rundgren's band who were called the Nazz. So I said let's not come up with a name that's dark, because they're expecting that. I said, "What if we sounded like we were somebody's aunt?" It was kind of like the all-American, sweet little old lady name. And I wasn't Alice Cooper. I was just the singer in the band Alice Cooper, like Manfred Mann. Pretty soon everybody called me Alice, they just assumed that the singer's name was Alice. So, at that point, I legally changed my name to Alice Cooper. It was a total outrage at the time. Now it's a household name.


But you're right that if there was intentional queer coding in certain acts image, it was largely lost on their audience. Freddy Mercury could literally dress like he was going to a gay bar and sing essentially a show tune and a lot of people still wouldn't think hey, that's a stereotype. There's also no inherent reason to assume there was intentional coding.


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12 Jul 2023, 4:53 am

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Yeah. Tell 'em their favourite president was in a movie with drag.

To be honest this whole thing about equaiting the LBTQ+ community with pedophiles is a deliberate and planned attack.

The accusation of pedophillia is a convenient way to demonise the whole group in a way that makes their own side look like the lesser evil.

Republics commit fraud? They like on TV? They cheat? They're racist and sext? They're terrible at governing? It doesn't matter if the bas is convinced that the other side are literal pedophiles.


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14 Jul 2023, 5:45 pm

Had a statement cross my FB feed that reads,

"To Catch a Predator never filmed an episode outside a Drag Queen's house, but they did film 20 episodes featuring Football Coaches, Pastors and Priests, Drs, Lawyers, Uncles, and brothers..."


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