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19 Sep 2024, 12:34 am

I just want to express how angry I feel about how the Canadian government is handling (or more specific not handling) immigration here. Under the Trudeau Liberal government the population of Canada has gone from 36M to about 40M, and that's just documented immigrants. Who knows how many people are really here? Between illegal immigrants, people on student visa's and temporary foreign workers we are looking at over a million people a year flooding into this country. All of this has been done without any preparation.
Housing and vehicles have gone way up in price. And our welfare system that was designed to only handle a small amount of people approximately 10-15% of the population is overwhelmed by the amount of new applicants. Since housing is so scarce and expensive wait lists for low income and supportive housing have become so long that it's not unlikely that you will have to wait 5-10 years for your name to come up, that is if it comes up at all. The people of this country are suffering and the government doesn't care. I'm going to be reaching out to my MP again about this issue. I know that this probably won't change anything but I want these corrupt politicians to know that the people are angry and that they will be held accountable for what they have done to this country.



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19 Sep 2024, 1:05 am

you can rest assured that it is very hard for a typical american to be allowed to move/live up there, much less gain citizenship.



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19 Sep 2024, 1:32 am

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you can rest assured that it is very hard for a typical american to be allowed to move/live up there, much less gain citizenship.

Yes well, I think the Canadian government is looking for cheap 3rd world labour.

There is an anti American sentiment that is perpetuated by our media and government in Canada. That's probably why it would be hard to gain citizenship here. The modern Canadian identity is largely derived from the antithesis of America, e.g. if America is X than Canada should be Y. That is why the province of Alberta is hated by eastern Canada. Alberta was actually settled by many Americans and they brought their culture with them. That's why we call Alberta the Texas of the north because of the oil loving gun toting cowboys that inhabit the area.



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19 Sep 2024, 2:03 am

In 2019, Australia had the highest share of migrants* in the OECD after Luxembourg, at 30 per cent of the population. This was more than twice the OECD average (14 per cent).
Migrants boost the labour productivity of Australian‑born workers. On average, a region with a 10 per cent larger migrant share (e.g., 33 per cent instead of 30 per cent) has a 1.3 per cent larger regional wage difference, which indicates a positive link between migration and labour productivity.
Migration boosts the employment of the Australian‑born population and does not affect its wages. A 1 percentage point rise in the annual migrant inflow (measured as share of the total population), on average, leads to a 0.53 per cent increase in the employment of the Australian‑born population. Australian‑born people of all skill levels, ages or genders benefit from this positive effect.
Migration boosts patenting in Australia. On average, a one percentage point increase in the regional employment share of higher‑educated migrants (those with at least a college degree) relative to total employment leads to a 4.8 per cent rise in regional patent applications in the medium run (5 years). There is no effect of migration on trademarks or design rights applications.
https://population.gov.au/publications/ ... oductivity.



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19 Sep 2024, 4:23 am

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In 2019, Australia had the highest share of migrants* in the OECD after Luxembourg, at 30 per cent of the population. This was more than twice the OECD average (14 per cent).
Migrants boost the labour productivity of Australian‑born workers. On average, a region with a 10 per cent larger migrant share (e.g., 33 per cent instead of 30 per cent) has a 1.3 per cent larger regional wage difference, which indicates a positive link between migration and labour productivity.
Migration boosts the employment of the Australian‑born population and does not affect its wages. A 1 percentage point rise in the annual migrant inflow (measured as share of the total population), on average, leads to a 0.53 per cent increase in the employment of the Australian‑born population. Australian‑born people of all skill levels, ages or genders benefit from this positive effect.
Migration boosts patenting in Australia. On average, a one percentage point increase in the regional employment share of higher‑educated migrants (those with at least a college degree) relative to total employment leads to a 4.8 per cent rise in regional patent applications in the medium run (5 years). There is no effect of migration on trademarks or design rights applications.
https://population.gov.au/publications/ ... oductivity.

I don't understand, are you endorsing this statement from the Australian government?

I assure you this is not the case in Canada. Unemployment is up across the board. And even when you do find find work the wages are low. No point paying a Canadian what he is worth when an east Indian will work for almost nothing and won't complain about it.



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19 Sep 2024, 4:29 am

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I assure you this is not the case in Canada. Unemployment is up across the board. And even when you do find find work the wages are low. No point paying a Canadian what he is worth when an east Indian will work for almost nothing and won't complain about it.


Same thing CFL. Legitimate immigrants don't take jobs, they increase employment in many sectors. Also governments like in the EU take more refugees than Canada.

You have the power to influence policy by voting for a party that wants to slow down immigration.



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19 Sep 2024, 5:48 am

There are similar sentiments in the UK about immigration. Probably some truth in the idea that it's mostly about importing cheap labour. A cynic might say that the ruling class wants the indigenous population to hate immigrants, for divide-and-rule. Certainly they do little about preparing people for what's going to happen.



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19 Sep 2024, 5:23 pm

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Certainly they do little about preparing people for what's going to happen.


As an intellectual argument there is some validity to how having refugees/illegal immigrants intake overwhelm social services and test social cohesion of the indigenous population. Since the 1990s the demographic impact on places like London but also Melbourne and Sydney in Australia has been considerable.

I think its fair the indigenous population have been sidelined in this debate and government leadership has been facilitating other agendas



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19 Sep 2024, 11:16 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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I assure you this is not the case in Canada. Unemployment is up across the board. And even when you do find find work the wages are low. No point paying a Canadian what he is worth when an east Indian will work for almost nothing and won't complain about it.


Same thing CFL. Legitimate immigrants don't take jobs, they increase employment in many sectors. Also governments like in the EU take more refugees than Canada.

You have the power to influence policy by voting for a party that wants to slow down immigration.

I don't vote anymore. All of the political parties are controlled by same people. I'm only 28 years old but I've been around long enough to notice that voting doesn't change anything in this country.



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19 Sep 2024, 11:24 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
There are similar sentiments in the UK about immigration. Probably some truth in the idea that it's mostly about importing cheap labour. A cynic might say that the ruling class wants the indigenous population to hate immigrants, for divide-and-rule. Certainly they do little about preparing people for what's going to happen.

I completely agree with what you have said here, it's the old divide and conquer tactic. Keep the people busy quarling with each other so that they don't have any energy deal with what criminals (government) are doing.



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19 Sep 2024, 11:30 pm

Dude!  You're coming across as one of those MAGA-hat wearing Americans, eh?


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19 Sep 2024, 11:44 pm

cyberdad wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
Certainly they do little about preparing people for what's going to happen.


As an intellectual argument there is some validity to how having refugees/illegal immigrants intake overwhelm social services and test social cohesion of the indigenous population. Since the 1990s the demographic impact on places like London but also Melbourne and Sydney in Australia has been considerable.

I think its fair the indigenous population have been sidelined in this debate and government leadership has been facilitating other agendas

I can't agree more. I have witnessed both of these things in the town I live in.

I rely on disability benefits and community services and they are both overwhelmed by demand. Heaven forbid someone gets something wrong on your file, if that happens you are in for 3+ weeks of calling and visiting the ministry office to find out what went wrong and how to fix it.

And yes I agree social cohesion is greatly affected by immigration. The truth is multiculturalism doesn't work, it atomizes and isolates people into small insular groups. I mean for christ sake how are we supposed to get along if we don't even speak the same language? When I go out of my house I am astonished at how many languages are spoken other than English or French. The last time I checked those where the only languages stated in the official languages act of Canada, not punjabi or mandarin.



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19 Sep 2024, 11:49 pm

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Dude!  You're coming across as one of those MAGA-hat wearing Americans, eh?

I'm not a fan of trump to be honest. But I would like to make Canada great again, nothing wrong with that.



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20 Sep 2024, 12:51 am

Canadian Freedom Lover wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Dude!  You're coming across as one of those MAGA-hat wearing Americans, eh?
I'm not a fan of trump to be honest. But I would like to make Canada great again, nothing wrong with that.
It depends on what you mean by "great".


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20 Sep 2024, 1:07 am

Fnord wrote:
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Fnord wrote:
Dude!  You're coming across as one of those MAGA-hat wearing Americans, eh?
I'm not a fan of trump to be honest. But I would like to make Canada great again, nothing wrong with that.
It depends on what you mean by "great".

Economically prosperous and safe would be a good start.



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20 Sep 2024, 2:51 am

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Economically prosperous and safe would be a good start.
What do your think must be done to achieve that?

What are you doing to make it all happen?


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