Whyyyy can't we all just get a lo-hong-hong?

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Why can't atheists and Christians coexist?
Why must we pound each other with our fists?
Why can't we just agree to disagree
And live in perfect unity?

Man, no kidding. I am sure both sides would be better off.

'Tis all true.

Extremism needs to be stomped out, Christian extremist have time and time again hidden and denied proven research which could have helped thousands of people, only because the research contradicted their interpretations of biblical passage. This is a form of tyranny.
Christian extremists advocate passing laws and political policies on the grounds of religious bias, which are set to forcibly subjugate all of secular America to their beliefs. This is also a form of tyranny.
Christian extremists are the biggest threat to our 1st amendment right, our freedom of religion, and our freedom of expression (though the pc police liberals are also a big threat to our freedom of expression, this all falls under censorship of coarse).
There are atheist too, who use science as a crutch or excuse to act like barbarians, they only provide ammunition for religious extremist's claims that all atheist are immoral.

The literal interpretations of religions have been proven wrong with the fossils found in evolution. This is why I think literal interpretations of religion needs to be abolished, because as long as they've been around, they've been misused and used to hold innocent minorities down (and I can name tons of examples). Not so much out of trying to censor people, but more for looking out for the good of all humanity and a brighter future. Literal religions are and have, always held back the progress of humanity. They are not legit religions, but more like brainwashed cults. If their priest tells them that "god commands" them bomb the wimbley stadium, they'll do it without question. And they'll defend their actions as MORALITY.

Conflict is fun!

Someone said in another thread somewhere that facts aren't truth, I'd like to ad that was the stupidest thing I've ever heard, it's like saying "logic is stupid". Facts are truth, just because someone doesn't emotionally like the facts does not change the facts. For humanity to ever progress, they've got to be willing to deal with facts where they lay, in order to make the best possible outcome for everyone (I know this is a dream but this is what I thing needs to be done)...
As Sam Hein said in another thread "the greatest evil of humanity is the ability to make abstract that which is concrete".

The exclusive Brethren and Scientologists are two loony cults I can think of, both of which have gods that have persecution complexes and are just plain nutters. Bruce Hales with the Brethren and L Ron Hubbard with the Scientologists. Anyway, enough about those prats.

Yes, it would be great if we could all get along without this religious penis-envy thing that's going on (my group is better than yours, we've got the biggest congregation blah-de-blah) and coexist on this planet and one big human family. Unfortunately, doctrines and dogma forbid this, and that's why we are in such a mess to begin with.

Snake321: That was a quote from a movie, Indiana Jones said it to his archaeological class before he got involved looking for his father. Technically is is correct, because facts can be verified with substantiated events and opinions, while 'truth' is subjective to what one believes to be true. So if I said black was black, you might say no, black is white. Black being black is a fact, because it can be substantiated. Black being white, on the other hand, may be your belief and therefore your 'truth' as you see it, even though black is not white. So while Christians believe the bible to be the 'truth', none of the things in it are absolute fact.

I have been thinking the same thing, it would be good if we could just say 'hey well we disagree so what let's go to the pub'.

Unfortunately these things matter. People are dying right now because of ideas, and many who aren't dying have had their short lives ruined ... because of ideas or lack of them.

But these continous atheism-christianity debates are going nowhere because underneath the superficiality are people with needs and feelings - and these aren't talked about ... the need to love, or the fear of death, the need to fit in, or to find your place in the world : these kind of underlying feelings is where the truth is.