Alien Invasion

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Illegal immigrants are pouring into the US, taking up living space, taking up jobs, sending money back to their families in their country of origin, some of them bringing their families to live here (temporarily or permanently) and some of them returning with enough money to retire in their own country.

In values of American dollars a coworker of mine (Antonio Lopez) at McDonald's said that for working the same amount of hours at one McDonald's in Mexico (sorry I don't know the city) that he got paid about $60 a paycheck, pay period being two weeks, whereas same pay period and same hours gets about $400 in Shakopee MN, USA.

Things do cost less in Mexico and the other nations, but a monthly wage around $100 isn't much. I imagine it is a great temptation to work about the same amount and get paid almost an order of magnitude more, but if they want to come here and get it, I'd wish they'd legally immigrate and pay the same bills we have to.

In short, they like having a large pocketbook, relative to what they could make in their own countries, and small bills where their families live. Who wouldn't want that for themselves? But it still isn't good for US economy for the export of our financial resources.

I think it should be harder for people to jump the border, but it should be easier for them to become PERMANENT citizens. If they want to work here, they should live here too. That is my view.

Ben

What are your views?

go on youtube and search up The Amazing Racist.

Aradford, if your making the border issue into a race issue, your just a stupid pc liberal who is too scared to look at the facts objectively and I wish you'd shut up. It's not about them being brown. Hell Mexico's immigration standards are higher than ours. ALL nations have these laws, they exist for a reason. We as a nation must be able to regulate how many people are in our borders, all citizens should have to pay the same taxes (this includes minorities, not giving them special accomodations or special rights or priveledges as "teachers pets" doesn't amount to racism ret*d). Hell, not only do we as a nation not know how many people are living here, for all we know criminals are entering our nation... As a matter of fact it's a foregone proven fact that criminal organizations like MS13 are coming into our borders and trafficking women into prostitution against their will..... Ok, but I better not say it's wrong for them to do that, that would make me racist
Dude, honestly I don't give a f**k what the color of their skin is, I only care that they immigrate legally and my country can prosper. Some of my best friends are hispanic.
As for the language thing too, it's not racist to expect them to learn our language. As the old saying goes "when in Rome do as the Romans do". If I moved to Mexico, I'd learn Spanish. Thousands of Chinese immigrants come here, they don't make a civil rights issue saying we should learn Chinese to accomodate them. You know why? Respect, they don't move to someone else's country and expect them to stop everything their doing to learn an outsider's language in order to accomodate them. If anything, it's more racist against born americans when they aren't learning a lick on English.
As I said, it's not a race thing, if it's a race thing at all it's racist against whites (as America is viewed as a pre-dominantly white nation, even though English is no longer a white-only language).

Oh, but you better not acknowledge facts that go against political correctness, that wouldn't be very LIBERAL of you

You do realise being prejudiced against the hetero white male demographic is just as ignorant as being prejudiced against the gay black female demographic?
And denying plain facts that just happen to work in one demographics favor is being ignorant?
Yes, I feel bad for what the Mexicans have to go through in their home country, but the answer isn't to let them tear our economy down and make us poor. We must look after our own back yard first.

I apologize Aradford, I thought you were just spouting off uninformed bigoted left wing propaganda but I just look up on this Amazing Racist thing, I didn't know it was a comedy act. My apologies, hey it was a funny clip though

LEARN TO USE THE EDIT BUTTON.

No it's no race issue, it's a financial issue. It's economics. I don't care how much melanin their skin produces, I want a little equality. Racism comes in two forms: hatred of people because of something they can't change or favoring certain people because of something they can't change. Should we let foreigners, who just want to get the money here and go back and live the easy life, continue on just because people would charge us with a false and slanderous accusation of racism?

Should people be judged OR FAVORED based on their outward appearance or genealogical background? NO!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! We shouldn't let people get away with stealing our jobs, our money, our living space, just based on the fact they look or talk different. If they like the money here they should stay for the rest.

I see the point on illegal immigration, and I agree it should be easier for them to be citizens. The thing is that you make it seem like people who do it, they just do it because of ambition, you said that for you it was like they wanted to make more money, dollars, with the same work they did in their country, they wanting more ($_$), that seems to be your impression on this, but it's not like that at all.

People who do that, it is because they are desperate, they are in great poverty and they want to feed their families, they are actually doing this for survival.

Um, why the heck can't I get a freakin' McDonald's cheesburger past 8:00 at night? Because no spoiled white rich kids will work. No uneducated American adults will work. Our workforce, isn't! There are Help Wanted signs in every single business in my town.

But to be fair, minimum wage ain't cutting it.

This isn't about illegals. It's about our messed up economy. I do not pretend to know how to elaborate, I just know there's a problem when it's harder financially on someone who is a legal citizen to work than to take welfare.

In that case perhaps studying economic will explain why your entire premise is more likely race based and not economics. Keeping inflation in check is critical to the health of the economy and wage inflation is the primary source of inflation. If illegal immigrant were not crossing the border and doing jobs for lower pay what would happen is wages would increase till someone in America would do the job. Wait you say "thats good TM1" Not according to the Fed. To prevent that wage inflation they will raise interests rates as high as it takes to destroy that demand for workers that is driving up wages. So the reality is if Mexicans were not coming in most those jobs would be lost anyway and the ecomny would be growing at a very slow rate due to the high interest rates. Your life would be worst.

Well explained, TM1! My dad does financial planning and I've heard that before, I just don't take enough interest to really learn about it.

Edit: I still don't like the aspect that makes it financially burdensome for some people to work and easier for them to take welfare...can this be solved?

So if the Mexicans start working at McDonald's, maybe I can have that evening cheesburger afterall.

Also the title says "Alien invasion" not sure, but that sounds a little degoraty to me, doesn't it?

Last edited by greenblue on 23 Aug 2007, 11:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

And if the government stopped trying to control inflation the price of that cheesburger might skyrocket to the point you could not buy it even if there was a middle class American kid cooking it for you late at night.

Yeah I thought it was going to be on the ramifications of aliens from other planets coming to Earth is why I clicked on this thread.

me too, and I was dissapointed, lol