Why Does Everyone Feel So Politically Homeless? - Ana Kaspar

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02 Nov 2024, 5:04 pm

This seems like a bit of a watershed moment. Obviously Dave Rubin ejected from Young Turks, Ana has as well but I don't think she's planning on hanging with Dave or with Charlie Kirk anytime soon. It would be watershed if she keeps her unaligned perspective and encourages other people to as well, mainly for the purpose of what's really going on and, what I'd really hope for, change the pressure on Washington to solve the problems that are driving people insane from never being able to get out of debt or people not feeling like they have the money to meet all of the demands society places on parents.


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02 Nov 2024, 5:06 pm

Ana's bad takes are why I haven't watched TYT in years.

And now she's preparing to start the same grift as Dave Rubin and Jimmy Dore, which further reduces whatever credibility she might have once had.

I'm looking forward to her Why I Left The Left special on Prager U.


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02 Nov 2024, 5:24 pm

People also look for meaning when they're feeling stuck. The homeless groping incident at the park seems to have spurred her curiosity as well though.


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02 Nov 2024, 9:16 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Ana's bad takes are why I haven't watched TYT in years.

And now she's preparing to start the same grift as Dave Rubin and Jimmy Dore, which further reduces whatever credibility she might have once had.

I'm looking forward to her Why I Left The Left special on Prager U.

Jimmy Dore didn't used to be too bad several years ago, but I've got his videos blocked because of just how bad his takes have been since Covid. They may have been bad before that, but that was the point where it was really clear that he had no idea what he was talking about.

In general, I don't watch really anybody from that network just because of how bad the takes are.

Personally, I'm politically homeless because I used to qualify as either a conservative Democrat or Liberal Republican, which these days makes me I'm not even sure what right now. But, definitely not Democrat or Republican.



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02 Nov 2024, 10:10 pm

One thing to clarify - I haven't particularly been a fan. I never got the vibe that she was a crap person deep down but I'd agree that the 'takes' were toward the nutters. I watched that whole interview and she's at least saying all the right things about wanting to disengage from others as far as how she decided her way forward and wants to keep her political autonomy for more of her own research and write all of the nuanced thoughts that she was dying to have but couldn't as a certified member of the left. Chris even joked with her that the online take is she's grifting rightward and will have some huge deal with Rumble soon - present.


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02 Nov 2024, 10:35 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
Personally, I'm politically homeless because I used to qualify as either a conservative Democrat or Liberal Republican, which these days makes me I'm not even sure what right now. But, definitely not Democrat or Republican.

I've never had a political home unless you count the year or two in my early youth when I supported the Tories. :oops: After that I was a kind of socialist for a while, and still find an appeal in socialism, but I've never yet found a political party or ideology that squares very well with my feelings. But it's not so bad being politically homeless. There's a freedom in it, not having to toe any party line or to pretend to agree with whatever groupthink they've concocted. They're all wrong about something or other. So stuff the lot of them. I might vote for one lot to keep the other lot out, but don't talk to me about faith in politicians or leaders in general. They're a necessary evil at best.

Perhaps a better question would be, why does anybody feel so politically housed?



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03 Nov 2024, 12:05 am

In the US, the Republican party ideology ranges from the extreme right to the center right, and the Democratic party ideology ranges from the center right to the center. There is virtually no left in American politics except for a few outliers in the very moderate left like Bernie Sanders. I agree with much of what Bernie Sanders advocates so I would consider that to be my political home base, though I am further left than he is.



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03 Nov 2024, 12:16 am

bee33 wrote:
In the US, the Republican party ideology ranges from the extreme right to the center right, and the Democratic party ideology ranges from the center right to the center. There is virtually no left in American politics except for a few outliers in the very moderate left like Bernie Sanders. I agree with much of what Bernie Sanders advocates so I would consider that to be my political home base, though I am further left than he is.


Would Cornel West or Jill Stein qualify as left?


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03 Nov 2024, 12:59 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
bee33 wrote:
In the US, the Republican party ideology ranges from the extreme right to the center right, and the Democratic party ideology ranges from the center right to the center. There is virtually no left in American politics except for a few outliers in the very moderate left like Bernie Sanders. I agree with much of what Bernie Sanders advocates so I would consider that to be my political home base, though I am further left than he is.


Would Cornel West or Jill Stein qualify as left?

I respect Cornel West and I don't know a lot about Jill Stein though she strikes me as a bit of a kook and a lightweight, but I wouldn't vote for either of them because they can't win and defeating Trump is too important. I think they should stay out of the presidential race as they can do no good. There are other ways to promote third party politics. I strongly disagree with third parties running in a presidential election as they can only do harm.



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03 Nov 2024, 9:47 am

bee33 wrote:
In the US, the Republican party ideology ranges from the extreme right to the center right, and the Democratic party ideology ranges from the center right to the center. There is virtually no left in American politics except for a few outliers in the very moderate left like Bernie Sanders. I agree with much of what Bernie Sanders advocates so I would consider that to be my political home base, though I am further left than he is.


That explains why I laugh my socks off every time I hear American right-wingers pretending that the Democrats are communists. Would somebody please show me a Democrat who doesn't embrace capitalism?



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03 Nov 2024, 11:25 am

I have not felt “at home” with any political party since the Reagan administration.

Too conservative for the DNC, and too liberal for the GOP. Not into blatant hypocrisy, so that leaves out the Libertarians, and the Independents are just an offshoot of the DNC.

The rest are as impotent as a lame-duck senator.


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