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blitzkrieg
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26 Oct 2024, 5:25 am

Full title of the article: "Forget incels, meet ‘femcels’ – the generation embracing ‘toxic femininity’".

I found this article very interesting. There aren't many articles on femcels in the mainstream media I have come across personally, and yet they certainly do exist.

There are some differences described between femcels and (male) incels in the article, which might be informative to some people not familiar with the topic?

An excerpt from the beginning of the article:

"Rhiannon Lewis is not important. The men she sleeps with won’t text her back. She lives alone, surrounded by the belongings of her dead dad and her dead dog. Her sister bullies her, as does her old high school bully, who continues to harass her. At work, she’s ignored by her colleagues, passed over for a promotion and, perhaps worst of all, her boss insists on calling her “Sweetpea”. She is, in short, a loser. A loser, that is, until Rhiannon gives into her violent, homicidal impulses. Once she starts killing people, she’s much more fulfilled, happy. She’s seen."

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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/femcels-incels-sweetpea-b2635500.html



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26 Oct 2024, 5:51 am

A link to the article:
Forget incels, meet ‘femcels’ – the generation embracing ‘toxic femininity’


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26 Oct 2024, 6:02 am

Interesting article. "Few know that the incel movement was actually created by a woman. In the nascent days of the internet, the founder of the world’s first incel forum was a queer woman known as Alana. A lonely college student in Ottawa, in 1997 Alana started a support group and named it Alana’s Involuntary Celibacy Project, after the lifestyle she herself was living."


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26 Oct 2024, 9:00 am

BillyTree wrote:


Thank you Billy. :)

It would seem I forgot to put in the link in the initial post. I have edited the post now to include the link for anyone browsing just the first post.



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26 Oct 2024, 9:00 am

BillyTree wrote:
Interesting article. "Few know that the incel movement was actually created by a woman. In the nascent days of the internet, the founder of the world’s first incel forum was a queer woman known as Alana. A lonely college student in Ottawa, in 1997 Alana started a support group and named it Alana’s Involuntary Celibacy Project, after the lifestyle she herself was living."


Yep, created by a woman!

I found that bit interesting, too. 8)



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26 Oct 2024, 10:01 am

That sounds like sweetpea


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26 Oct 2024, 10:07 am

babybird wrote:
That sounds like sweetpea


The paragraph I quoted does indeed reference the Sky Atlantic adaptation of the novel of the same name, although the article discusses the topic of femcels more generally, as well as referencing the television piece.



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26 Oct 2024, 10:10 am

"KnowYourMeme’s biggest rival, the institution that is Urban Dictionary, is more accurate though: there, a femcel is defined as a woman who doesn’t have sex, voluntarily or otherwise, but more importantly, a “chronically online” woman who is generally “a social reject, especially in real life, and mostly [has] online friends (if any IRL friends at all)."



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26 Oct 2024, 10:11 am

Yeah I can't read all that with my dyslexia but I've got a thought on the matter but I've not thought it through properly yet


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26 Oct 2024, 10:13 am

babybird wrote:
Yeah I can't read all that with my dyslexia but I've got a thought on the matter but I've not thought it through properly yet


Ah, I forgot that you have dyslexia.

If you have anything to contribute further in the future to the thread, do no hesitate to share! :)



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26 Oct 2024, 10:17 am

Oh yeah what I was thinking was it only makes sense that there's a female version of this but it can easily be missed because of promiscuity

I think they could choose a more fitting word for it but I get why they choose femcel


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26 Oct 2024, 11:02 am

babybird wrote:
Oh yeah what I was thinking was it only makes sense that there's a female version of this but it can easily be missed because of promiscuity

I think they could choose a more fitting word for it but I get why they choose femcel


I think it is good that that there is a female version of the term incel that is recognized. It sort of challenges the exclusivity of male inceldom, who probably see themselves as victims in ways that women cannot be, which I personally don't agree with. I think women can have equal problems with inceldom or 'femceldom'.



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26 Oct 2024, 11:25 am

Yeah definitely and I hate the way mencels get such a bad press as well


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26 Oct 2024, 11:28 am

babybird wrote:
Yeah definitely and I hate the way mencels get such a bad press as well


Yeah, I think some of them are just very confused, disillusioned and pitiful people. It doesn't help to demonize a group with those characteristics.



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26 Oct 2024, 11:32 am

Doesn't seem like a real thing. But it does make a good movie plot. It'll be interesting when it comes out. I'm predicting at least 75% on Rotten Tomatoes.


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26 Oct 2024, 11:40 am

old_comedywriter wrote:
Doesn't seem like a real thing. But it does make a good movie plot. It'll be interesting when it comes out. I'm predicting at least 75% on Rotten Tomatoes.


Why does it not seem like a real thing?

Women who might appear to have options on dating websites and the like might actually be undateable in real life due to their behaviour or emotional state or other such things.

I don't think it is uncommon as you might think.