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01 Nov 2024, 2:55 pm

Was it staged ? Did he slap the red on his ear himself. Is his ear scarred ?



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02 Nov 2024, 2:14 pm

I doubt it was staged. I assume Trump was struck by a fragment of the round.


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02 Nov 2024, 3:39 pm

I have heard opinions from some people in real life that they think it was a staged attempt, since the secret service response was so haphazard and incompetent in allowing it to happen in the first place.

Personally, I think secret service incompetence is a more likely explanation for how close Trump came to being assassinated, versus the slim possibility of some grand conspiracy.



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02 Nov 2024, 3:47 pm

I don't think it was staged either


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02 Nov 2024, 5:39 pm

Not staged.

Unless MAGA somehow managed to successfully pull off a false-flag attack, but I doubt they have the intellectual resources for that.



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02 Nov 2024, 6:46 pm

Unless he was supposed to miss.
Fits the demographic now doesn't it?



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02 Nov 2024, 7:04 pm

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Unless he was supposed to miss.
Fits the demographic now doesn't it?

There is too high of a risk of a mistake to attempt to stage this. The shooter has be very accurate and Trump has to be at the exact same spot at the exact same time.


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04 Nov 2024, 12:44 pm

Exactly ! What do we know, - there was the sound of a gunshot, he slapped his hand to his ear, ducked down, and a few seconds later stood up with some red stuff on his ear. Does anyone know what happened to the shooter ?



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04 Nov 2024, 1:16 pm

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Exactly ! What do we know, - there was the sound of a gunshot, he slapped his hand to his ear, ducked down, and a few seconds later stood up with some red stuff on his ear. Does anyone know what happened to the shooter ?


He got clapped by the Secret Service.


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04 Nov 2024, 1:18 pm

Those who think the shooter deliberately missed don't know anything about guns.

A bullet has a tolerance distance depending how far away the shot, windspeed the tiniest movement can make a bullet go an inch or two from target, which in this case would have killed him.

If you go to shooting ranges for army & cops you`ll see the shots are spaced out slightly in the target circle, its almost impossible to guarantee a bulls eye at that distance


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04 Nov 2024, 3:39 pm

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Those who think the shooter deliberately missed don't know anything about guns.

A bullet has a tolerance distance depending how far away the shot, windspeed the tiniest movement can make a bullet go an inch or two from target, which in this case would have killed him.

If you go to shooting ranges for army & cops you`ll see the shots are spaced out slightly in the target circle, its almost impossible to guarantee a bulls eye at that distance


We think the shooter was SUPPOSED to miss.. but in his incompetence, accidentally hit.
We think DJT would be quite happy to have a few in the crowd die to claim his mandate to insurrect.
Don't try to lecture me on ballistics. I was a national archery champion and worked for DoD in weapons simulation for more than a decade.



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05 Nov 2024, 12:38 pm

Why is nobody recognising the question ? FACTS :- There was the sound of a gun shot, Trump slapped his hand to his ear, ducked down and then stood up with some red substance on his ear, Is it not possible that there was never any bullet involved anywhere and that the red substance was what he slapped on his ear himself ? Has anybody seen a medical report of the supposed injury, is his ear scarred ? Come on ! Loads of media commentators were saying " thats it, he's won" ! And he's still riding high on the hero status it has given him.



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05 Nov 2024, 1:51 pm

That was my first thought, however someone died.



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05 Nov 2024, 1:56 pm

Auldyin wrote:
Why is nobody recognising the question ? FACTS :- There was the sound of a gun shot, Trump slapped his hand to his ear, ducked down and then stood up with some red substance on his ear, Is it not possible that there was never any bullet involved anywhere and that the red substance was what he slapped on his ear himself ? Has anybody seen a medical report of the supposed injury, is his ear scarred ? Come on ! Loads of media commentators were saying " thats it, he's won" ! And he's still riding high on the hero status it has given him.


None of the facts are indicative of the incident being faked, so far the case for it being faked is nothing more that conspiratorial horses**t with no actual evidence.

Yes, hypothetically the incident could have been staged. That's not the same as there being actual evidence it was staged.


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26 Dec 2024, 1:04 pm

Agreed, I'm not offering evidence that it WAS staged, I'm asking the question " can we be sure that it wasn't staged " It surely played a big part in his re-election and I for one think it could have been the brainchild of one of his clever electioneering team.



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26 Dec 2024, 3:25 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
I have heard opinions from some people in real life that they think it was a staged attempt, since the secret service response was so haphazard and incompetent in allowing it to happen in the first place.

Personally, I think secret service incompetence is a more likely explanation for how close Trump came to being assassinated, versus the slim possibility of some grand conspiracy.


This Secret Service is not omnipotent. They have certain realities they have to deal with and always get support from the local and state police. In particular, their job is to guard the protectee and only the protectee and not secure the perimeter. That is the job of the local and state police.

They should, however, work with the local and state police to make sure that the local and state police secure the perimeter.

What happened is not the fault of the Secret Service. Blaming them for it is nothing but pushing of a political agenda.