True Friendship in the Zionist West is Almost Impossible

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22 Dec 2024, 3:59 pm

As the years go by, I realize that having any true friendship while living in the Zionist west is almost impossible. For one thing, as money is idealized above all else, if you are poor and age out of your public schooling friends, good luck getting the attention, let alone sympathy from anyone above the age of eighteen - as once again...money is praised above all. And if your friends from your younger age see you struggling, they will automatically write you off as a "loser."

For another, the quirks of those on the autism spectrum will only get more scrutinized and criticized by the normies who believe every single thing they see either in the mainstream media, or social media.

Again, the solution is to escape the insanity that is the Zionist west and setting up shop elsewhere.



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22 Dec 2024, 4:08 pm

What does Zionism have to do with your inability to form friendships?


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22 Dec 2024, 4:15 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
What does Zionism have to do with your inability to form friendships?


Did you read what I posted?



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22 Dec 2024, 4:52 pm

I'm with FXE.
the link seems tenuous.
I'm guessing Athens Georgia rather than Greece?



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22 Dec 2024, 6:10 pm

depressedmiddleage wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
What does Zionism have to do with your inability to form friendships?


Did you read what I posted?


Yes, you just failed to layout an argument that supports the idea that Zionism is at fault for your social struggles, or even for the values that you blame for your social struggles.

a) The values you're complaining about seem more like capitalism's fault than Zionism's fault.
b) True friendship being impossible for you doesn't mean it's impossible for everyone. Some people are able to find true friendship, which makes it seem like you're misattributing blame. Autism causes deficits in social development, that's almost certainly the primary factor in why most of us struggle socially.

I'm not particularly fond of the west's support for the genocidal state of Israel, but that doesn't mean I'm going to scapegoat Zionism as the cause of all sorts of unrelated issues too. Blaming your social shortcomings on Zionism makes as much sense as blaming Zionism for why you can't buy a brand new AE86 at the local Toyota dealership or why music on the radio now doesn't sound the same as music on the radio 20 years ago.


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05 Jan 2025, 5:40 pm

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a) The values you're complaining about seem more like capitalism's fault than Zionism's fault.

Indeed.

Capitalism is much older than organized political Zionism. And, in the early days of organized political Zionism, many Zionists advocated a form of socialism.


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16 Jan 2025, 9:04 am

what does Zionism have to do with finding true friends?Am I missing something.I just dont see how the two are related.



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16 Jan 2025, 9:12 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
what does Zionism have to do with finding true friends?Am I missing something.I just dont see how the two are related.


It really does seem like a non-sequitur. Zionism doesn't seem relevant, either to the specific criticisms being made of the west, or to anyone's social struggles.

It seems a lot like assuming the grass is greener else where and blaming Zionism for problems that can't fairly be laid at Zionism's feet.


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16 Jan 2025, 3:25 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
depressedmiddleage wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
What does Zionism have to do with your inability to form friendships?


Did you read what I posted?


Yes, you just failed to layout an argument that supports the idea that Zionism is at fault for your social struggles, or even for the values that you blame for your social struggles.

a) The values you're complaining about seem more like capitalism's fault than Zionism's fault.
b) True friendship being impossible for you doesn't mean it's impossible for everyone. Some people are able to find true friendship, which makes it seem like you're misattributing blame. Autism causes deficits in social development, that's almost certainly the primary factor in why most of us struggle socially.

I'm not particularly fond of the west's support for the genocidal state of Israel, but that doesn't mean I'm going to scapegoat Zionism as the cause of all sorts of unrelated issues too. Blaming your social shortcomings on Zionism makes as much sense as blaming Zionism for why you can't buy a brand new AE86 at the local Toyota dealership or why music on the radio now doesn't sound the same as music on the radio 20 years ago.


If you read what he said, he said "money is idealized above all else". If you think about it for a minute, you'd see the connection he's making.



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16 Jan 2025, 3:27 pm

Suggest this be moved to the Politics forum because this screed is not really about making friends.



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16 Jan 2025, 5:55 pm

^ Done.


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16 Jan 2025, 7:55 pm

rse92 wrote:
If you read what he said, he said "money is idealized above all else". If you think about it for a minute, you'd see the connection he's making.


The issue is with attempting to connect that trait to Zionism. Zionism is irrelevant to why our society commodifies everything.

There is no connection between Zionism and money being idolized like it's our supreme deity. That's called capitalism.


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17 Jan 2025, 7:31 am

funeralxempire wrote:
rse92 wrote:
If you read what he said, he said "money is idealized above all else". If you think about it for a minute, you'd see the connection he's making.


The issue is with attempting to connect that trait to Zionism. Zionism is irrelevant to why our society commodifies everything.

There is no connection between Zionism and money being idolized like it's our supreme deity. That's called capitalism.


Not in his head.



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17 Jan 2025, 8:36 am

Agreed with the general sentiment of other commenters.
Zionism is not really relevant, what you are talking about is capitalism, but also the
US brand of Neo-liberalism which involves the atomization of society into a giant "marketplace" of individuals,
where every social interaction is about some kind of market place or building a personal brand,
everyone is looking for an angle,
and anything different (like being nice) is "suspicious" because it's a good way
to rip people off later.

Not just autists, but everyone is suffering. This sucks.



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17 Jan 2025, 4:41 pm

If someone's first thought is to blame the 'Zionists' (code for 'Jews' in some people's minds), and they're tying it to the whole Zionists/Jews/Bankers/Capitalism/Money stereotype... I reckon I might have worked out why the difficulty making friends.

This problem however, may be a short term one. As President 47/34/PO1135809 assumes power, a lot of folk who hold similar views will start to reveal themselves. Plenty of friend opportunities then.


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17 Jan 2025, 5:14 pm

rse92 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
rse92 wrote:
If you read what he said, he said "money is idealized above all else". If you think about it for a minute, you'd see the connection he's making.


The issue is with attempting to connect that trait to Zionism. Zionism is irrelevant to why our society commodifies everything.

There is no connection between Zionism and money being idolized like it's our supreme deity. That's called capitalism.


Not in his head.


That's what's called a delusion, more specifically an antisemitic delusion.


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