Kemi Badenoch

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She's the leader of the Tory party btw

Anyway do you think she will be the next prime minister if the UK or what

I don't think she'll even make it to the polls in 3 or 4 years time

I reckon the party will want to replace her for the election

No chance. I reckon she'll be long gone before the next election. She's not very popular in the party or with the public.

My prediction - either the economy makes a serious recovery and people feel better, in which case Labour scrapes the next election with a reduced majority, or it continues to stagnate and people roll the dice again, resulting in a Reform win or a Tory/Reform coalition.

Yeah the reform party have taken over in the polls

Why are conservative parties suddenly attracting folk who would be their natural enemy?
there is nothing wrong with anyone having conservative values (my parents are conservative) but wanting to represent people in the UK where she must know half of them would like to see her leave Britain?

That's why I think they'll elect a new leader before the general election

Certainly a different leader, but I wouldn't be so sure about 'new'. If I was going to put money on who would be the next Conservative Prime Minister I would put it either on Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage (yes, I'm aware neither are currently Conservative politicians).

She's an absolute hypocrite the woman

Tokens offer cover from allegations of bias, but also get spent.

It's the same problem the Tories have had for years now. They try to bring in the racist vote by using "immigration" as a code, while using politicians of colour as a front to make it Officially Not Racist. But their target audience hears the real message and votes "Reform" instead, because they only want to hear that message from white faces. That's why all the banging on about "small boats" they did just served to make people who hate immigrants angry at the Tories as well. Nobody likes a hypocrit. Not even the fash.

As well as being a first generation immigrant herself

Looks like there is a Kemi Badenoch effect. Scores of traditional conservative have switched their allegiance behind Nigel Farage, so her leadership has created a first in the UK where Farage's reform party is leading the polls over the tories!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 89526.html

Well at least she has done something constructive, we now know why Brexit happened. Its not terribly hard to understand, traditional Britons want a leader who reflects their lineage, not just their values.

No. Still not buying it. That's a reductive take.

Brexit happened for many different reasons. I don't doubt there was a section of society for whom racism played a part but it wasn't the driving force behind 52% of the voting population choosing to quit the EU.

I don't dispute/doubt that, but human beings are complicated creatures (even if they appear ignorant). Give credit for these folk holding > 1 reason for voting Brexit. I'm sure they had a laundry list and to quote pink floyd "would you like to send, our coloured cousins home again? my friend?" it was one of the items.

I thought giving them credit for having more than one reason was what I was doing. You were the one who said we now know the reason for Brexit and gave just one reason.

As for the 'coloured cousins', while we were in the EU we were subject to freedom of movement under EU rules. That meant that most of our immigrants were white and largely indistinguishable from ourselves, until they spoke and their accents gave them away.

Since we've left, that's no longer the case so if it was skin colour that drove the vote it was a tremendous shot in the foot.

I hate to say it but her being black doesn't bode well in a fight with Farage. If I were the tories I'd be looking to bring back Boris or somehow recruit Farage.

Yeah sorry, I was being reductive, but the point I was leading to is that its easy to elevate the economy or some other issue as paramount to make one sound impartial; when in reality people's words belie their actions. White flight in Britain speaks for itself on what conservatives are perhaps most concerned about, namely demographic change in their neighbourhoods. But of course there are the other issues too.