Liberal / non-literal intepretation of bible impossible...

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Liberal / non-literal intepretation of bible impossible... for a real christian.

Jesus believes that moses and adam were real people, therefore god believes it... and christianity stands or falls by the ressurection of the REAL christ (i.e. he had to actually exist). Therefore anyone who is not a biblical literalist is not really christian by the bibles standards.

I don't understand the point of this topic.

How does one handle literally
interpreting direct contradictions
which appear in the Bible then?

Or, is god just that f****d up?

Insofar as I have understood history Christ was a Jew.

Well , I believe that shortly after the end of the last ice age ( sometime after 12,000 BC) some people ate something that they shouldn't have done , and " their eyes were opened, and they were as gods, knowing good and evil"; this doesn't actually make me a christian at the moment but it does lead me to believe that the jewish people may have been founded by some people discovering that they had certain similar ( genetically determined ) reactions to wheat which promoted increased abstract thought ,and that as a direct result of this capacity to see logical paths in all directions they suffered from an increased need for strict rules and regulations in their lives in order to feel secure.
I even think that they may have known they were eating forbidden fruit ,because previously the elders in the group may have been seen that children born to mothers who ate it had difficulties with usual social interaction ,and imposed a strict ban on it, enforced by a threat of being cast out from the group if broke it ,because the "trip" was so seductive , and the substance so addictive that many would otherwise not resist.
And so the jewish people was founded on that strange mixture of superiority and disability ( needing many elaborate rituals and protective regulations to function) which is so visible on here!!
And , as first significant association of ASD'ers ever , they wrote many records and lists of their trials and tribulations, with all the necessary ASD/OCD lists and details and repetitions which you would expect!!
As someone with aspergers I am quite happy with this literal reading of the Old Testament. Finding my ASD roots is turning out to be pretty exciting!!

When interpreting the bible people have a few options.

They can interpret it literally, throwing away any sort of scientific knowledge they may or may not have had.

They can interpret it as a bunch of metaphors and allegories, with less literal context, giving rise to numerous interpretations.

They can interpret it as a piece of moralistic fiction written thousands of years ago, and label themselves as non-Christian.

Besides, the Bible has been around for about two thousand years now. That is plenty of time for a bunch of Romans and Kings and Popes to manipulate the text to say whatever they want it to. Widespread reading skills didn't come about until several hundred years ago. 1500 years is more than enough time to twist the text to fit any sort of means or end.

To Nominalist,

Right, .... first just like to say that I've been posting some of the development of my beliefs on this subject, as they occurred to me , based on what I know as well as imaginative leaps!! , on the thread " Aspergers/autism, civilisation, primitivism , suspicions" started by Skyknight.

For me the very first fundamental bit of evidence is the effect that gluten in wheat ( and rye etc) has on me , and a fair number of other people in the world.
[ Documented. See sites such as
http://www.foodallergycure.com/food_all ... hure_2.htm for super reading list and lists of symptoms of food intolerances in general . My favourite books are still Dr. Richard Mackarness' " Not all in the Mind" ! and " Food allergy and intolerance. Your hidden enemies" by Theron G Randolph.] And I posted a fair amount about my own personal experiences of this on the thread " Gluten Free Diets" on the General Discussion board.

Secondly that many of the mental effects of observed cases of intolerance to gluten( and even the physical) either mimic remarkably(! !!) , or are the same as , aspergers and in some cases autistic spectrum disorder symptoms.[ Documented. As above and other sites]

Thirdly that gluten first came into existence as the result of a mutation in grass plants in what is known as the Fertile Crescent, or Irak/Iran/N.E. Turkey, just after the last ice age , around 13-12,000 BC. [Documented. Sites on net about evolution of cereals]
Nobody had ever consumed this protein molecule before. It is the largest protein molecule that we ever eat. [ Documented. Forget where, but it is a perfectly established fact of biochemistry!]

The capacity to deal with it safely, digest it appropriately, is genetically determined.( although there are theories suggesting that generalised yeast infection of body, repeated or untreated diarrheoas, and abuse of anti-biotics amongst other things, can also result in failure to cope safely with gluten.) Documented.

Very shortly ( within 2,000 years, which is nothing compared to the tens of thousands of years it took to develop arrow heads to perfection!) ) after this new plant appears the first settled agriculture and animal husbandry begins. Houses go from being round to rectanglar. And the first representations of abstract/fully made up deities( as opposed to animal spirit etc) are fashioned.[ Documented. Chauvin et al. And countless others, but I like him cos he attempts to explain agriculture by religion , and then religion by agriculture , without ever wondering whether the food being cultivated might have something to do with their simultaneous emergence ! !). ]

The writing invented in countries where people ate wheat ( and rye etc)involves two steps of abstraction, being based on the sounds of the spoken word for things, whereas the writing invented in countries where until recently no glutenous grains/cereals were consumed were and/or still are pictographic , that is based on things appearance. Where this has changed it has followed the introduction of wheat into the culture.

I'll post that for mo'. The rest is mixture of conjecture, drawing of inferences and some possibly over simplified similarities. Though there are plenty of other details which seem to fit I'll stop there on this post.
But it's an idea that interests me very much.