ableism, the "ok" discrimination

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This thread is about the hypocracy of today's overly PC age and how they react to "disability". You go onto myspace or xpeeps and you've got women talking like "oh look at me, I am sooooooooooo open minded because I like men and women", and with everyone looking for any excuse to pull the race card or the gender card...... But, then those same people not only condone, but perpetuate another form of discrimination, one which is still institutionalized into society, against disabled or differently abled people. Being one of those differently abled people, I can not fathom what could be more blatantly hypocritical of society than this. I think it is time we stand up, join hands, and begin throwing some feces back.
I see strong parellels between institutional ableism that has persisted to this day, and institutional racism as has existed in my country's history. The exact same attitude and way of thinking applies here. In fact, "progressive" representation by society when it comes to the disabled, is a sheer minstrel show. I remember watching the democratic primary when they had the lowest functioning, cross-eyed and drooling guy they could find to exploit on national television while they put cards in his hands to read off what they wanted him to say. This is unacceptible, and quite hurtful (seeing as I know I am placed in the same category so it does demean us in a way too).
The sheer fact that they have this attitude like we're not intelligent or independent enough to represent ourselves, so according to them they know what's better for us than we do, hell aspies don't even have a voice in decisions reguarding the societal treatment of autism spectrum conditions. Nor do any other disorders or "disorders". This despite the fact that there are quite many of us who are highly cognitive, independent, determined, conscious people. But those of us do not fit their stereotypes so I guess theyr not interested in us.

Society must be re-educated on disability, the stigma needs to go. The days of us being held to stereotypes at a grand societal level needs to go. We are not "forever children", we are not a burden, we are not a "freak show", we are not "charity cases", we are human beings god damnit.

For some reason, I don't mind the idea of being discriminated against.

Oddly hypocritical words from a man desperate for the government to dispense sex-surrogates to the disabled (i.e. himself).

That has already been proven a human need to mental growth, the UN and the EU have recognized this. In fact world leaders met to discuss legislation around this. So you supposedly know more about this that the EU, UN, and various other national governments?

I guess the slaves were "hypocrites" too for wanting to be independent since nobody else would grant them their independence, because the freedom of a black man had no bearing on white people (ie my right to sexual health has no bearing on YOU, since your likely an attractive or semi-attractive female who can probably score a date with a fraction of the effort I can).

Last edited by snake321 on 11 Nov 2007, 10:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.

You obviously have not been following the disability rights movement around the world, not only have they proven the human need for sexual expression, in nations such as Netherlands, Finland, Sweden, they've legalized surrogacy. So your statement in and of itself was ableist.

But what do I know, according to Aridarr, we men on here are "losers" because we can't get a date.

Oh, f**k, what have I begun?

Have I ever, ever used the word loser, to describe anyone? No.

Here is the link, to World Association of Sexology, a proven field of science that has been blocked access to mainstream carriculum here in the US by the religious right wing, WAS was formerly known as World Sex Health Organization, an organization of the United Nations. World leaders met in hong kong to draft legislation by the foundings of this research:

http://www.worldsexology.org/index.asp

No but that is the attitude people like you usually endorse, I've seen it a thousand times. No amount of proof will make you open your mind to our rights, especially since the proof is in other countries where you can easily pretend you never heard of it.

Aridarr, we had began getting along so much better, I don't want to have to get angry with you.... All I ask is an open mind.

I'm just sick of you using the word "ableist" to describe me.

I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome too, and on top of that I have severe Schizophrenia and a mood disorder to contend with. By all counts, I am disabled myself. Or do my crippling disabilities not count because I am a woman?

My point was, you either have to tolerate pity, and be helped; or grow up and fend for yourself.

Aridarr, your being incredibly insensitive, that statement was next to "if those n****rs want their freedom then they should run away and move to Liberia, otherwise they should stay here and pick cotton"

You are at least a semi-attractive female, it is not nearly as tough for you to hook up with someone as it is with us men on here. WE have to take the initiative, WE have to make all the moves. Women are the gatekeepers, there is a gender priveledge towards females in the dating scene and much of it deals with sociology and gender roles.