anyone here a member of the ACLU or works for them?

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whatamess
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28 Jan 2008, 12:56 pm

Just wondering if AS people side more with them or if it's just me.



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28 Jan 2008, 4:15 pm

The ACLU is a planted movement. It is not a true grass roots movement, if it were it would be violently put down and silenced, and you would not have even heard of it. ACLU has a strong left wing bias on a number of issues, it's a tool. It's there to ground people mentally into what they THINK is real (and granted many of the followers believe their standing for their own ideas, but little do they know) and it's there to progress ideas that will eventually lead into other ideas that will eventually support their agenda. In other words theyr playing the masses. Public opinions and group opinions are largely controlled, even if the followers and protesters do not think they are..... The masses are easily manipulated because they thrive on their own ignorance most of the time, any empiracle truth that does not fit into their pre-set paradigm or world view they do not want to listen to.
Do I believe in ACLU? No. ACLU belongs in with other PC extremist left wing groups such as Amnesty International, Al Sharpton, and Femi-nazi groups. I do not believe they truely represent the people, they do not represent the **common** good but rather they represent a clique, and yes there is a common good IF people could try to put their egos aside long enough to come to the table and **compromise**. Instead of fighting ourselves, we need to stand together as one, against big corporations which are taking away our liberties.
This means this right/left s**t has to go. Every group, be they white, black, brown, yellow, red, male, female, straight, gay, bi, liberal, conservative, christian, jewish, atheist, budhist, muslims, etc, have to own up to their own criticism, take responsibility. Because everyone has added to the mess, reguardless of backgrounds.



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29 Jan 2008, 7:39 am

Heya what a mess... ignore snake :)

As far as I can tell, from my time here, ASpies are no more likely to side with the ACLU (or such principles) as are the general population.



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29 Jan 2008, 10:39 am

snake321 wrote:
The ACLU is a planted movement. It is not a true grass roots movement, if it were it would be violently put down and silenced, and you would not have even heard of it. ACLU has a strong left wing bias on a number of issues, it's a tool. It's there to ground people mentally into what they THINK is real (and granted many of the followers believe their standing for their own ideas, but little do they know) and it's there to progress ideas that will eventually lead into other ideas that will eventually support their agenda. In other words theyr playing the masses. Public opinions and group opinions are largely controlled, even if the followers and protesters do not think they are..... The masses are easily manipulated because they thrive on their own ignorance most of the time, any empiracle truth that does not fit into their pre-set paradigm or world view they do not want to listen to.
Do I believe in ACLU? No. ACLU belongs in with other PC extremist left wing groups such as Amnesty International, Al Sharpton, and Femi-nazi groups. I do not believe they truely represent the people, they do not represent the **common** good but rather they represent a clique, and yes there is a common good IF people could try to put their egos aside long enough to come to the table and **compromise**. Instead of fighting ourselves, we need to stand together as one, against big corporations which are taking away our liberties.
This means this right/left sh** has to go. Every group, be they white, black, brown, yellow, red, male, female, straight, gay, bi, liberal, conservative, christian, jewish, atheist, budhist, muslims, etc, have to own up to their own criticism, take responsibility. Because everyone has added to the mess, reguardless of backgrounds.


Tripe.

The ACLU has helped represent Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell, anti-abortion protestors, street preachers, kids that want to use schools (after hours) for Bible studies, and a host of other groups that are far from Snake's idea of the PC mafia. The ACLU is interested in civil liberties, regardless of who is getting trampled or how popular they are. The ACLU opposed the McCain-Feingold act, noting that it will limit speech of groups as diverse as the Sierra Club and the National Rifle Association.

The ACLU has taken cases to fight for worker's rights and privacy rights - which makes them unpopular with some big corporations.

Amnesty International? They adopt individual political prisoners around the world and try to focus attention on their plight and pressure the governments to ease up - they have gone beyond 'left/right' but snake has not.