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Your goal in ethics?
Loving God and your neighbor 56%  56%  [ 5 ]
Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain 22%  22%  [ 2 ]
Seeking happiness through virtuous behaviour 11%  11%  [ 1 ]
The "greater good" of society 11%  11%  [ 1 ]
Adaptation to surrounding culture 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
situational advantage 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Other-please specify 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 9

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17 Nov 2007, 11:42 am

What is your stance?



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17 Nov 2007, 12:10 pm

Mine is loving God and my neighbor.



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17 Nov 2007, 1:16 pm

Well I did not vote because I would have to vote for several options on the list in order to vote accurately.



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17 Nov 2007, 2:45 pm

snake321 wrote:
Well I did not vote because I would have to vote for several options on the list in order to vote accurately.


Ok. Which of the four modern views do you most correspond to?

  1. Judaical/Christian
    1. Conservative
    2. Liberal
  2. Cultural relativism
  3. Utilitarianism
  4. Situational
  5. multiple-please specify



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17 Nov 2007, 2:46 pm

I would be (a, 1)



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17 Nov 2007, 6:15 pm

Before anything I would say situational, because I am an analytical person. But to some degree a bit of relativism in necessary for survival if your talking politics.



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17 Nov 2007, 6:17 pm

I won't say cultural relativism is ever that necessary in most cases though, culture is just something to divide people. It would be nice if everyone could put their cultural differences aside and get a long, but this will never happen. Of coarse I am not talking about music or clothes or fashion, I'm talking about traditions. Often tradition is merely learned ignorance.



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17 Nov 2007, 6:22 pm

Ethics don't have to be necessarily related to religion, at all, as you make it seem, iamnotaparakeet.


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17 Nov 2007, 7:49 pm

Do I?



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17 Nov 2007, 7:54 pm

It seems.


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17 Nov 2007, 8:39 pm

How?



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17 Nov 2007, 8:47 pm

It's kinda obvious, that you strongly show your religious belief here, and that's ok, PPR is for that, otherwise it would be just PP forum :P as you have stated there is only one true religion and the rest false, then you probably would believe that if anyone is not serving God by going to church and following the Bible, then that person don't have morals. Is it? At least Ragtime based on his post, seems very much to think that way.


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17 Nov 2007, 9:00 pm

Immanuel Kant showed you can have morals without the Bible, even absolute ones, just from reason. However, where he differs from the Bible I differ from him. In this thread I'm just wondering what other's views are.

If multiple of the above choices, try to pick the one you follow most. If you follow different goals or can't decide, please pick other and post which if you like.



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17 Nov 2007, 9:22 pm

I don't know really what would be my "end goal of ethics" actually. Equality, no violence, peace, things like that I suppose, too clique? :P

I'm drawn to secular humanism.


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17 Nov 2007, 10:11 pm

greenblue wrote:
I don't know really what would be my "end goal of ethics" actually. Equality, no violence, peace, things like that I suppose, too clique? :P ...


That would be close to Kant's views. "Act as if the maxim from which you act were to become through your will a universal law." Id est, act for the greater good of society.



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17 Nov 2007, 10:15 pm

Finding true happiness and getting that true happiness out to others. Ignorance, misunderstanding, discrimination, hatred, all those things keep us from really understanding s--- as a race, let alone each other. I think true happiness really comes from knowledge and wisdom as both have a lot to do with liberating you from being a pawn or slave of your environment and lend themselves to you really having your life the way you want it (in addition, if those are your goals and if your really chasing truth odds are you're setting a good example for the people around you in your life - regardless of whether or not they really get it at first).