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29 May 2008, 6:22 am

as/autims is complex issue, I believe some people with brain damage have been diagnosed as autistic, I believe that enviormental factors for sure play a role in how severe a case of AS is.

my number 1 theory about AS is that its a symptom of the human race becoming more and more evolved/smart/ ect. but this dosent explain severe cases of autism that does not seem to be brain damage. I have a few theorys for explaining severe autism, but they are very vauge.

I believe that Schizophrenia is the same thing as AS. Its just labels made up by humans.

I understand that the truth have no place in a human society, beacause everyone only cares about themselfes. Scientific reports are only made for 1 purpose, to make money and build respect. sometimes they may cross the truth, but that not important for them. neither would it be important for me if I where a scientist, I would select respect and money over the truth everyday....

I never tell anyone what I really thinks, because it does not gain me anything. I play the social game for all its worth.

so to sum up, the truth means nothing. If everyone said that there where 1000 pink cars flying around in the sky, and every person in the world "believed" this,for some reason, I would join them without a doubt, beacause otherwise I would be an severe outcast.

I dont see how its possible to dissagre with this, I you dont count people that dissagre for personal gain. the truth means nothing in life, but you can still think about the most plausible truth. this is my MPT.



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29 May 2008, 6:47 am

How is schizophrenia evolution?? If people cannot function in society ad are literally wandering the streets talking to themselves, experiencing paranoia when nothing is remotely wrong, or absorbed in hallucinations or a catatonic state, how is that evolution??

I see error in this because it is saying that autistics are higly evovlved and anyone else is lower, and you have pretty much set your mind thinking to if someone disagrees it isnt because they have valid points, but because they are stupid and dont accept the truth? How is that plausible? you're basically saying you dont have anything to learn from society or others because they arent as evolved as you when I thought the mark of evolved thinking was learning from everyone, accepting that the world has more than one truth, and knowing that "The man who knows everything knows that he knows nothing at all".



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29 May 2008, 7:11 am

merr wrote:
How is schizophrenia evolution?? If people cannot function in society ad are literally wandering the streets talking to themselves, experiencing paranoia when nothing is remotely wrong, or absorbed in hallucinations or a catatonic state, how is that evolution??

I see error in this because it is saying that autistics are higly evovlved and anyone else is lower, and you have pretty much set your mind thinking to if someone disagrees it isnt because they have valid points, but because they are stupid and dont accept the truth? How is that plausible? you're basically saying you dont have anything to learn from society or others because they arent as evolved as you when I thought the mark of evolved thinking was learning from everyone, accepting that the world has more than one truth, and knowing that "The man who knows everything knows that he knows nothing at all".


you make some good points, really.



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29 May 2008, 7:32 am

^^ sorry if i got a little preachy or mean to you. sometimes my boyfriend says the same thing and it just puts others in a box that they can never transcend. a very frustrating place to be. 8O



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29 May 2008, 10:03 am

There are many different kinds of brain disorders and even experts have difficulty discerning some of the differences. It would be wise to do a bit of reading on the subject before coming to any conclusions.



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29 May 2008, 12:07 pm

merr wrote:
How is schizophrenia evolution?? If people cannot function in society ad are literally wandering the streets talking to themselves, experiencing paranoia when nothing is remotely wrong, or absorbed in hallucinations or a catatonic state, how is that evolution??

Interestingly, I believe I have actually heard that schizotypals tend to be more creative on average than both normal people and schizophrenics. Sickle Cell Anemia anyone?

grain-and-field wrote:
I believe that Schizophrenia is the same thing as AS. Its just labels made up by humans.

Please do research on this. Aside from superficial similarities, the gross cognitive wackiness associated with schizophrenia is totally unlike ASD.


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29 May 2008, 6:51 pm

Truth is based on reality, therefore, there is only 1 reality, 1 truth, but there are different perspectives of the truth. Your perception may not be the exact same as mine. But empirical evidence suggests what is (as I term) ultimate truth. Ultimate truth is the purely obvious truths that are unquestionably true for everyone. To be able to see this means to be open minded enough to try and look at things from many different perspectives. Because the truth never takes sides in mere human affairs, it doesn't cater to you for being a certain gender, race, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, neurology, etc. but we're all subject to it. External reality.



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29 May 2008, 6:55 pm

The problem is (and yes, it shows here on this forum) that so many people are culturally indoctrinated to feel like thinking is a chore. Lazy mindedness is brainwashed into people to the point of idiocy. Common since and compromise have no place anymore because people have clearly done pissed them away. Thinking is not a chore, thinking is what makes us human.



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29 May 2008, 6:57 pm

As for autism..... Honestly, I think it's just a difference. That's all. We're not mentally disabled, we're just differently abled.... To be able to efficiently explain the differences between an aspie and a NT one would have to have a good grasp of talking psychology, which I lack..... Because lets face it, there are many very brilliant NTs out there as well.



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29 May 2008, 9:19 pm

It's best not to depend on such labels.
Unless of course you require serious medical attention.