How did the Universe come to be?

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My quetion is what Created the Universe?

Or what could have Created the Universe?

Did it just happen or what?

How could it happen, did it happen just by chance then or what?

Anybody have any Ideals.

Thanks BeeBee for the Ideal!

All Ideals Welcomed.

out of the belief that the universe was created by a simple spark and chain reaction of events... and the belief of creation, has anyone ever considered that god may have "created" "evolution"?

i cant really go deeper than that when it comes to religion, because i'm pretty much agnostic.

Pythagoras, Aristotle and other early Greek philosophers were of the opinion that the universe was composed of a fixed number of "fundamental particles" contained within a finite amount of space. They realised that there is a logical limit to the number of possible arrangements that these particles could perform, and, as they didn't believe in a creator that could produce something out of nothing, they concluded that:

The universe has always existed.

That the universe performs all possible arrangements - then repeats itself.

So - according to this theory, you have been reading this an infinite number of times in the past and will continue to read it, over and over again (with each reading separated by a long period of time) an infinite number of times in the future.

So you have plenty of time in which to understand it! Mind you, if you don't understand it this time you won't the next, and the next, and the next ....

Pythagoras & co. realised that the universe was VERY old.

Assuming this theory to be true, if one considers that we now know that "substance" consists of ultra minute "things" much, much smaller than atoms then it can be worked out that if one of these ultra-minute mini mini particles corresponds to a billion years then the age of the universe, the period of one cycle, corresponds to the sum total of all these particles in the universe - multiplied by a large number!

That's a bleedin' long time, eh?

Furthermore - one can deduce from the above that the universe that we can observe is merely a tiny minute portion of the totality.

Relyt - I totally agree that religion and evolution can go together - to me evolution is just showing how God created, and continues to create, the world . . .
It blows my mind how many otherwise intelligent religious people get all bent out of shape about this topic . . .

I have created a new topic Did God create Evolution.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7244&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Big Bang

Other then that, read my post on "Does God exist?"

Is there any other philosophies or myths that show how the Universe was formed.

How did the Universe (Big Bang Theory) come to be.

Newtonscat post shows: "Pythagoras, Aristotle and other early Greek philosophers were of the opinion that the universe was composed of a fixed number of (fundamental particles) contained within a finite amount of space. They realised that there is a logical limit to the number of possible arrangements that these particles could perform, and, as they did not believe in a creator that could produce something out of nothing, they concluded that: The universe has always existed.

My question is then with "fix number of this fundamental particles" would this limit the number possibilities that You state in the later part of Your post.

I myself beleive that the Universe could not come out nothing without something wanting to created it in the first place.

But if it just did happen or whatever how could it happen anymore Ideals.

kevv729 created it purely from his pearls of wisdom.

Only joking, Kevv

Here's a topic to make one burn out a few braincells!

It seems to me that the concept of infinite regression, with no original cause, is self-defeating. I think Aristotle concluded a few interesting truths about God without necessarily knowing him. He concluded, for instance that God is eternal, one, perfect, and the uncaused cause.

Of course, in Stephen Hawkings' books, he constructs time as an infinite 3 dimmensional model, which would make asking questions like "what existed before the beginning of time?" or "What exists outseid the boundaries of the universe?" meaningless.

Time can apparently not exist without space, but I don't know if space can exist without time. Perhaps the eternal, atemporal structure of time and space is a glimpse into the mind of God.

From a different perspective.

God was in fact a financier.

He created a theme park called 'The Universe'.

Of particular interest was the ride called 'Earth'. It went up and down, side to side and was really quite violent.

God got bored with his theme park, so it closed down. But unfortunately, the animatronic robots who were there didn't get his memo so they just kept doing what they did. Mostly now they sit around talking about why god made the universe.

Don't know. Big bang?

As far as I know, the secular view on the origins of the universe is basically: We can't know. You can't ask what happened before the universe because there was no "before" to look at. There was no such thing as "time" before the Big Bang.

Does anybody have any Ideals how the Big Bang Started and how it sustained its Expansion or how it could. Will keep on Expanding or will it Collapse back on itself.

So any Ideals?

Approximately thirteen point seven billion years ago a 'bubble' of high energy/density expanded exponentially forming a quark-gluon plasma. As it cooled over time, the denser particles formed protons and neutrons which then formed helium nuclei. Dense regions of matter formed gas clouds which evolved into stars and galaxies.

If entropy is correct, we can expect the universe to keep on expanding until every single particle in the universe is propelled from every other such that there is just scattered tiny particles over ever expanding space-time.

I however feel that this does not take into account certain still undefinable parameters such as dark matter. I feel that before heat death occurs, a technologically advanced culture will be able to do one of the following.

1. Slow down the expansion rate
2. Slow down time itself
3. Transubstantiate beyond the corporal matter of the universe

I'd like to think that perhaps the human race could be the ones to achieve this.

I believe in the biblical account of creation.

I believe

The universe has no beginning in time

And therefore no need of a creator, no need of a god

In others words it just 'is'.

I have a lot of faith in Hawking's model of time as this infinitely multidimensional thing that has properties to bend and curve itself in an infinity of probable ways, and consistent with the matter within it.