How to end crime and human suffering

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I recently posted a topic regarding the singularity. It is now polyfurcating into other topics. I believe the solution to crime and suffering is energy abundance. This seems obvious. Of course an abundance of resources will not initially eradicate all crime, though it will eliminate most crime, creating the conditions to further analyze crimes that are relative.

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Just as a tool can be used for construction, it can also be used for destruction. I believe incrementalism will assist in your concerns. When people are happy and generaly content they do not focus on methods of destruction. If I had within my posession a free energy device lets say, I would construct defensive technologies to deter possible offensive technologies. Advancement requires foresight that is balanced imo.

Good point

By doing just a little every day, you can gradually let the task completely overwhelm you.

I wouldn't worry anyway, because free energy is a pipe dream.

But burying the entire human population of Earth under rubble is a noble cause.

I can't really agree with that. An abundance of energy will most likely result in an even greater increase in population, which will bring us back to the same state, except with a lot more people. I think it would be better overall to decrease the population of the world to at least 600 million, which would result in less crime and and abundance of energy. Only problem is how to get the population down to that, and how to keep it at that (without a dictatorship).

I do not believe that is a noble cause.

By incrementalism I mean a gradual increase in the availability and distribution of resources. As energy increases, humans will be less likely to desire conflict considering that their needs will be met. Free energy is not, to use your terms, "A pipe dream". At least not from my perspective. An orbiting satellite could easily be utilized to produce an abundance in energy from rotational motion alone. And yes, I have already considered inductive reactance. Beyond this of course we have solar, wind, geothermal, hydrogen producing algae, etc...

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Who says that we have to stay on Earth?

Yeah why not colonize in Mars if we had the money?

Mars Before.



Mars after a long long make-over.



Mars back to where it started when we're through using it at our own disposal.

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Life is pain. Suffering is an inextricable/inevitable/unavoidable part of life.

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Perhaps. I would prefer less rather than more though.

Are you kidding? 600 000 000 isnt enough to maintain and support communications, transportation, education and government. These things would be absolutely critical in maintaining the world status that you espouse. Unless you are advocating returning to a feudal/agrarian society? There hasnt been only 600 million people in the world since 1700 AD.

With those numbers your ability to maintain worldwide communications would fail and the world would start along the path of consumption, pollution and rampant growth.

With a surfeit of food, yeast always grows to fill its container. So will people.

I have long thought that humanity is just a biotic growth over the surface of the earth, how poetic you make it sound, Fuzzy.

Merle

Haha! Dont make me write a limerick about it!

Over-abundance will temporarily suspend most conflicts. The problem is that population will increase until we find ourselves back in the same mess. To correct this you would basically have to ensure resources increase at a rate at least equal to the increase in population. The technology to do so does not exist at this point, but we cannot say it is impossible. 1,000 years from now technologies will exist that utilize entire branches of science completely unknown to us, there may be a bright future in store for us.

I disagree. An increase in population will lead to an increase in communication and growth of knowledge. This increase will accelerate the growth of emerging technologies and allow us to grow beyond this planet. No limit.

That's not free energy



Uh, no, we really don't need more people right now

If the human race has any future at all, it had better learn how not to buck sigmoid growth like the other vermin

Good luck with that