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04 Jan 2006, 5:58 pm

Has any of my fellow UK aspies ever considered the challenge of changing the fundamental values of our society and restoring the essential morals that holds and binds our society together like peace, freedom, justice and security for the individual. This can be done and needs to be done but it can only be done affectively by all us asperger minds uniting. The Monarchy, corruption, political correctness, the "selling off" of British assets......All but a few things that are like parasites crawling over our land. Discipline is essential otherwise there would be anarchy (which exists in many peoples lives and minds), as well as much more mutual understanding.
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04 Jan 2006, 6:57 pm

Ive given a few thoughts on your other thread, and will probably chip in again later.

I notice again, you appear to be using the word 'anarchy' as a synonym for disarray. Its not - its a political theory as valid as any other, with its own complex subtypes of idealistic and pragmatic variants, each with differing ideas on how societal networks and production might be best organised. Anarchy translates as 'without-ruler'.

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04 Jan 2006, 6:59 pm

An Anarchist is nothing but scum



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04 Jan 2006, 7:03 pm

im intrigued - care to elaborate?



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04 Jan 2006, 7:12 pm

Anarchists are evil scum, plain and simple.



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04 Jan 2006, 7:17 pm

In what sense evil?

You seem to have omitted at least 70% of you argument and 100% of the rationalization.

plain? No

simple? very! ;) :lol:



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04 Jan 2006, 7:30 pm

To call "Anarchy" a political theory is the biggest contradiction i`ve ever heard as how can a group of anarchists, for example, be called anarchists if they all want the same pollitical objective. Plus looking at the riots in the last few years i wouldnt fancy these sub-humans as my guirdians they are nothing but thugs that want lawlessness so they can smoke their drugs, rape, pillage, you name it, it will all be possible with the anarchists. That new car you wanted to buy sorry but its been torched by the anarchists etc etc....Anyone who preaches these so narrow views do not deserve the facilities of the western world and should instead go to those parts of the world where there is no capitilism or trade or whatever they spout on about as long as they realise there is no running water, no houses, no technology etc etc
Hell even nature has its structure



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04 Jan 2006, 7:37 pm

AlexUK wrote:
... it can only be done affectively by all us asperger minds uniting.


not looking good on that front so far, is it? ;)

'uniting' under what exactly - you?



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04 Jan 2006, 7:42 pm

If thats the case im ashamed to be an Asperger.



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04 Jan 2006, 8:22 pm

Well, you talk of unification, then immediately dismiss someones comments outright with a load of crass generalizations, misconceptions and frankly laughable stereotypes.
Ill gladly accept a little stereotyping, as its can be an AS trait - however, to be taken seriously you'll need to avoid commenting so forcefully on a topic without having evaluated it first from both sides.

At this point, im seriously starting to doubt your capacity for open and informed debate. However, i still find myself intrigued... what exactly is it you want to achieve- some sort of dictatorship? Why do you stress such strong importance on a neurological disorder? Why feel shame at the fact that said 'accident of birth' disorder produces differing views? And where do the NT's fit into your world view?

Failing that, some more clueless ranting would go down a treat, cheers! :D



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05 Jan 2006, 5:36 am

AlexUK wrote:
The Monarchy, corruption, political correctness, the "selling off" of British assets

Well, I'm not sure I agree with you on the monarchy. I tend to think of it that we own them, and that they are in fact one of the assets you wouldn't wish to sell off. Not that I'm any great fan of them, but I think that having a politically neutral individual such as the Queen for a national figurehead is preferable, as far as uniting the nation is concerned, to having a politician like Blair.

My personal views are that we should tell the EU where to get off, reclaim all our previously held fishing rights in our territorial waters, stop immigration, encourage those immigrants who are now here that don't want to be British to go back where they came from, repeal all race legislation so that all British citizens whatever their skin colour are treated equally and build new nuclear power plants and sell the surplus electricity to the rest of Europe when the Russian gas gets switched off. Oh, of course: hang the current Labour Cabinet from London Bridge :wink: .

I think the judiciary, senior police officers etc. need sorting out, too — they're in cahoots with the political elite. But that's another story...

[Note to moderators: I'm fairly confident nothing above breaches your oft loosely-interpreted "Guidelines", but if it does just ask nicely, and I'll amend]



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05 Jan 2006, 5:42 am

AlexUK wrote:
Anarchists are evil scum, plain and simple.

There are Anarchists, and there are anarchists, I don't think you realise there are different flavours, and that the various political idealogies are radically different to the popular conception of pure anarchy. I've come across some in these aspie internet places; many appear decent and intelligent individuals — good members of society. Some of their principles probably aren't that different to your own.



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05 Jan 2006, 6:09 pm

Hey AlexUK

As an Anarchist I feel deeply offended by your comment

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Anarchists are evil scum, plain and simple.


I may be evil, I may be scum, I may even be plain, but I am NOT simple. :twisted:


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06 Jan 2006, 2:14 am

Noam Chomsky

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06 Jan 2006, 10:02 am

psych wrote that Anarchy has...

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...its own complex subtypes of idealistic and pragmatic variants, each with differing ideas on how societal networks and production might be best organised. Anarchy translates as 'without-ruler'.


AlexUK later stated...
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...even nature has its structure

Yes your right AlexUK, and 'without ruler' too.
Actually the entire rest of the universe seems to get by 'without ruler' why not us?
Does this mean you agree with psych then?

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Brilliant! After reading this perhaps I am simple after all, at least compared to this guy. :lol:


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06 Jan 2006, 11:10 am

AlexUK wrote:
they are nothing but thugs that want lawlessness so they can smoke their drugs, rape, pillage, you name it, it will all be possible with the anarchists.

the idea that anarchists are like this is a myth. i could just as easily claim that all right-wingers are selfish, bible-bashing racists- stereotypes work both ways.

i have participated in some demonstrations organised (well, as organised as you can get for anarchists :wink: ) by a local group of anarchists, and the people that i encountered within the group were very community-minded and had high moral values. also, the majority of them were straight-edge. the demos, themselves, were peaceful ones- and much more creative than the socialist worker ones that i attended, in my experience.

AlexUK wrote:
The Monarchy, corruption, political correctness, the "selling off" of British assets......All but a few things that are like parasites crawling over our land.

i'm sure my anarchist associates would agree with you on most of this!

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Failing that, some more clueless ranting would go down a treat, cheers! :D

:lol: tee hee!