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11 Oct 2008, 1:11 am

Seriuosly if God exists why would such a being fix the issues that humans have created for themshelves, is blaming God an excuse to not get off your lazy rear and fix things yourself? I guess If you say its becaose of God therefore not only shouldn't you do anything, but you couldn't.



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11 Oct 2008, 1:23 am

If God can't beat the devil, why should I even try?



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11 Oct 2008, 1:26 am

most of the evils of the world or human made.



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11 Oct 2008, 1:26 am

most of the evils of the world or human made.



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11 Oct 2008, 1:54 am

You can characterize it that way or, in more perceptive understanding, what is considered "evil" is just plain stupidity.



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11 Oct 2008, 4:03 am

God is human made, religion is human made, evil is human made, good is human made. All of these stupid concepts are human made, they all do nothing but divide people.



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11 Oct 2008, 9:14 am

Why does God allow evil to exist? Because He Himself is the solution to evil. Humans are more than animals because we have knowledge of good and evil.



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11 Oct 2008, 9:59 am

z0rp wrote:
God is human made, religion is human made, evil is human made, good is human made. All of these stupid concepts are human made, they all do nothing but divide people.


Yep, a short but straight to the point answer I think.
And we humans are not more than animals, we are animals too.



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11 Oct 2008, 10:05 am

Animals don't know about good and evil. Humans do. Do you not remember the story of Adam and Eve?



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11 Oct 2008, 10:36 am

Ah yes, and Little Red Riding Hood and Hansel and Gretel and Star Wars and the Ring series. They all prove the facts about good and evil.



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11 Oct 2008, 10:39 am

I wasn't referring to any of them. Where did you get all that?



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11 Oct 2008, 10:42 am

They are all fantasies about good and evil. How aware are you?



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11 Oct 2008, 11:11 am

Sand wrote:
If God can't beat the devil, why should I even try?


That's assuming that he didn't deliberately create him for the purpose he serves - complicating life and presenting challenges to will and character.

z0rp wrote:
God is human made, religion is human made, evil is human made, good is human made. All of these stupid concepts are human made, they all do nothing but divide people.


Actually, while you can legitimately debate the existence of a god, good and evil really don't have as much traction. There is such a thing as cause and effect, actions that make the world a better or more equitable place, actions that make the world a far worse place. The problem that people have regarding this unfortunately, is with the massive societies we have now - not only do people have much different calculations of what is good or evil in that sense but they have completely different theories of reality often enough.



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11 Oct 2008, 11:30 am

Sand wrote:
If God can't beat the devil, why should I even try?


My dear god created the Angel Satan Lucifer, he is powerful yes much more powerful than you or I however his power is infinitely weaker than gods for god's power is absolute.

Anyways my god said that we have to do things ourselves and to choose our own path, that is part of the gift and curse of having free will. God rarely interferes with human affairs because God does not want robots he wants humans who can think for themselves.

I know yes god did many things in biblical days, and I am not sure if anyone alive today has even a fraction of the real reasons those miracles were performed like they were then.


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11 Oct 2008, 11:31 am

We are all God. "I am who am. I am the beginning and the end."

Nothing can be created nor destroyed. We are all one, infinite.

When we think we have no power over anything then we don't.
Our egos make us think some things are important when they're really not.
Treat others the way you would like to be treated...yada, yada, yada...


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11 Oct 2008, 11:34 am

C'mon! If God created the devil He can wipe him out. Pretty nasty God.