Do you ever feel morally superior to the rest of the world?

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01 Apr 2009, 11:30 pm

Think about it! Most of the world
1) Is shallow
2) Is greedy
3) Is callous
4) Is cruel
5) Is status-obsessed
6) Is illogical

Finally, people don't truly believe in love. Their idea of friendship is simply a temporary alliance to gain status. Their idea of a relationship is lust long enough to stay past a one night stand.

Why shouldn't I feel morally superior to them all?



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01 Apr 2009, 11:36 pm

timeisdead wrote:
Think about it! Most of the world
1) Is shallow
2) Is greedy
3) Is callous
4) Is cruel
5) Is status-obsessed
6) Is illogical

Finally, people don't truly believe in love. Their idea of friendship is simply a temporary alliance to gain status. Their idea of a relationship is lust long enough to stay past a one night stand.

Why shouldn't I feel morally superior to them all?


Since I am part of the rest of the world I would never even contemplate approaching you.



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01 Apr 2009, 11:37 pm

Sand wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Think about it! Most of the world
1) Is shallow
2) Is greedy
3) Is callous
4) Is cruel
5) Is status-obsessed
6) Is illogical

Finally, people don't truly believe in love. Their idea of friendship is simply a temporary alliance to gain status. Their idea of a relationship is lust long enough to stay past a one night stand.

Why shouldn't I feel morally superior to them all?


Since I am part of the rest of the world I would never even contemplate approaching you.


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01 Apr 2009, 11:40 pm

Do I ever feel morally superior to the rest of the world?

You must be joking!

Everybody is shallow, greedy, callous, cruel, status-obsessed, and illogical at times and to varying degrees. Some of us - such as yours truly - are simply more adept at appearing to take the higher moral ground, and with concealing their peccadilloes, than most of the people around them. Dig deep enough, and everybody has at least one "naughty" secret that, if revealed, would confirm their hypocrisy to the world in the most blatant fashion.



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01 Apr 2009, 11:49 pm

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Do I ever feel morally superior to the rest of the world?

You must be joking!

Everybody is shallow, greedy, callous, cruel, status-obsessed, and illogical at times and to varying degrees. Some of us - such as yours truly - are simply more adept at appearing to take the higher moral ground, and with concealing their peccadilloes, than most of the people around them. Dig deep enough, and everybody has at least one "naughty" secret that, if revealed, would confirm their hypocrisy to the world in the most blatant fashion.


I'm not claiming to be perfect but when I observe the world around me, I'm honestly disgusted at the behavior of most people. We all fall short but it's abhorrent the way so many try to justify their wrongdoings based on societal norms.



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02 Apr 2009, 12:24 am

timeisdead wrote:
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Do I ever feel morally superior to the rest of the world?

You must be joking!

Everybody is shallow, greedy, callous, cruel, status-obsessed, and illogical at times and to varying degrees. Some of us - such as yours truly - are simply more adept at appearing to take the higher moral ground, and with concealing their peccadilloes, than most of the people around them. Dig deep enough, and everybody has at least one "naughty" secret that, if revealed, would confirm their hypocrisy to the world in the most blatant fashion.


I'm not claiming to be perfect but when I observe the world around me, I'm honestly disgusted at the behavior of most people. We all fall short but it's abhorrent the way so many try to justify their wrongdoings based on societal norms.


Don't be too hard on the world - it's the only one we've got. And, after all, it did produce you which, I assume from your post, you consider a step in the right direction.



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02 Apr 2009, 12:32 am

Sand wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Do I ever feel morally superior to the rest of the world?

You must be joking!

Everybody is shallow, greedy, callous, cruel, status-obsessed, and illogical at times and to varying degrees. Some of us - such as yours truly - are simply more adept at appearing to take the higher moral ground, and with concealing their peccadilloes, than most of the people around them. Dig deep enough, and everybody has at least one "naughty" secret that, if revealed, would confirm their hypocrisy to the world in the most blatant fashion.


I'm not claiming to be perfect but when I observe the world around me, I'm honestly disgusted at the behavior of most people. We all fall short but it's abhorrent the way so many try to justify their wrongdoings based on societal norms.


Don't be too hard on the world - it's the only one we've got. And, after all, it did produce you which, I assume from your post, you consider a step in the right direction.


It's just difficult when I'm seeing everything fall to pieces.



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02 Apr 2009, 12:45 am

timeisdead wrote:
It's just difficult when I'm seeing everything fall to pieces.


That is the deception caused by inexperience. The world is a hell of a lot better these days. There is an equally deceptive practice called the illusion of hind sight, and it affects people who are aging. They remember the past as being far more rosy than it was.


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02 Apr 2009, 12:51 am

People only see what they can comprehend. If they are shallow, they only see the edge of the water and won't believe you if you say that you have seen rock bottom, let alone empathize.
Most people live in tv. Everything looks better on tv. Real people can't compare and so real people are invisible to tv watchers.


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02 Apr 2009, 12:55 am

It would be poor manners to admit to such feelings, so I don't think you'll be getting any responses from the morally superior. :D



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02 Apr 2009, 1:26 am

Have any of you ever read Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment? They discussed moral superiority through the motivations and thoughts of the main character, Raskolnikov, who used his justification of his "Superior" morals and purpose on earth as a "superman" type like Napoleon or Alexander the Great, since they have greater morals and are "superior" to the rest of the world, certain unthinkable acts, like murder, are justified.
Which is my long geeky way of saying no, I don't feel morally superior to most of the world, or anyone. I feel like if I did, I would become a monster.



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02 Apr 2009, 2:05 am

Robespierre believed he was morally superior. And he believed that France should be as well. He caused a hell of a mess called the Terror and it ultimately cost him his head.


On the other hand, one shouldnt let themselves BE morally inferior.


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02 Apr 2009, 2:07 am

timeisdead wrote:
Think about it! Most of the world
1) Is shallow
2) Is greedy
3) Is callous
4) Is cruel
5) Is status-obsessed
6) Is illogical

Finally, people don't truly believe in love. Their idea of friendship is simply a temporary alliance to gain status. Their idea of a relationship is lust long enough to stay past a one night stand.

Why shouldn't I feel morally superior to them all?

Yes, I, too, am morally superior than the rest of the world.
I am not shallow, well, maybe a little.
I am not greedy, I don't really care about money, just what it can give me.
Callous, well, I don't know about that, maybe a little.
I am not cruel
I am defenitely not status obsessed
I am not either ilogical nor logical


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02 Apr 2009, 2:28 am

DUH you are all missing the point of course we are morally superior to the rest of the world because we have aspergers and that makes it impossible for us

1. Lie
2. Decieve
3. Think in anything but a logical manner
4. Think about anything unless it is in a detailed and principled manner
5. To be greedy

...... etc etc :roll:

Of course it may well be true that we do in fact deceive ourselves into thinking that we cannot lie and we think far to much about things that do not matter, in a manner that seems logical to ourselves. Of course many of us cannot be greedy because we cannot hold down a job and therefore whatever we get is necessary

I really really dislike the idea of 'aspie supremacy'. More and more kids with AS are believing this garbage and I for one feel that it does not do them any good at all to go into the world thinking like this. All that will happen is they will get shunned worse than presently and will live a very lonely life.

As to callous I think it is highly likely that many with AS are (perhaps unintentionally) callous due to our reduced ability to feel empathy, cruelty I would suggest is over represented because it makes good news and status driven; interesting one, I would say that I am not status driven but like many with AS you could accuse me of being self obsessed. Is this a form of self imposed status?


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02 Apr 2009, 3:50 am

Morals are subjective, and everyone has their own morals. So by definition, everyone feels morally superior.

Am I morally superior? I think that's up for other people to decide. :wink:


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02 Apr 2009, 3:54 am

All six of the OPs points are externally defined. People are labeled with these. We do not self assign them.

If you are thoughtless of others(low theory of mind), you could be defined as shallow, greedy, callous, or cruel. Who cares how you justify? The EFFECT you have on others is the means to the definition they slap upon you.

And AS by definition is that our actions are negatively labeled.

If someone asks your opinion on something you have no interest in(narrow range of interests), you can be called shallow.

If you are an avid collector of something rare, someone will call you status seeking.

And if you dont think like the regular people, in their minds you are illogical. Even if they dont know what logic is.

timeisdead, all of these things are assigned to people with AS. All of these things are slapped on aspies all the time. Its an effect of our neurology, and we dont get to decide if its fair or not. We do not get to make excuses why it doesnt count. Whatever reasons we have are null and void in the minds of others. All they care about is that they are offended, and if they think we are this or that, its not for us to decide.


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