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oscuria
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03 Feb 2009, 6:01 am

I usually go through "phases" every year where I challenge myself. It all depends on how active I am, whether physically or mentally. So I am basically asking this:


Why should anyone care if there is a God and why should we care for others' beliefs in this respect?


Personally, it will not affect me if there is a mystical being hovering over the mountains of the Himalayas, or winged beasts that ever protect Zion. Neither of these mythologies can change the way I feel about my placement in this existence. I cannot understand that which people call God, I do not try to. The only time I can say I know who, or rather what, is God is when I surround myself in silence. "God" will forever be an abstract thing, meaningless and useless in describing what is behind the word. It is only a metaphor, and I cannot understand why anyone would become hostile to another person over such a thing.


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03 Feb 2009, 9:06 am

I think it's time to change your Hulk-crush-puny-Obama avatar.

He won.



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03 Feb 2009, 9:59 am

saying that god is an abstract thing is trying to describe it. and trying to describe god, or rather the meaning behind the word as you said, is an utterly pointless exercise. it cannot be grasped or understood, because its not something rational, and it cannot be felt, because its not something emotional. in a way i think it can be experienced, but its not really an experience either. rather its the absence of any experience



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03 Feb 2009, 10:06 am

A girl at my old Sunday school claimed to have heard the voice of God. I refuse to believe that a God, instead of solving world hunger, would use his omnipotence to prove his existence to a random young girl. It's not rational.

I believe in reincarnation, but I don't think there is any kind of God. God is just a symbol of protection, because people are too weak to want to recognise that humanity is responsible for its own faults.


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03 Feb 2009, 10:18 am

God is the Creator of all things seen and unseen.

Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End.

Omnipresent yet immanent.



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03 Feb 2009, 10:40 am

slowmutant wrote:
God is the Creator of all things seen and unseen.

Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End.

Omnipresent yet immanent.


And most likely, non-existent. Your beliefs are just that, beliefs, they lack a sound empirical basis. But whatever keeps you warm at night, pull it up to your chin.

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03 Feb 2009, 12:01 pm

What is God Topic..

God is a concept in which we measure our pain....


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03 Feb 2009, 12:20 pm

Incredible as it might seem, I had a personal experience with God. He was standing in line behind me at McDonalds. When I got my hamburger and fries He asked me if He could have my fries. When I asked Him why I should give Him the fries He told me He was God and if He could have my french fries He would see to it I would get into heaven. I said I thought God had a beard but He merely, like Yasser Arafat, badly needed a shave. He told me that was His Son who really couldn't handle things too well and got Himself crucified but He was trying to persuade someone to get Him an electric razor but so far had no luck. On the off chance He really was God I gave Him the fries and He gave me a card on which was printed "Free Pass into Heaven". I still have the card to prove He really was God.



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03 Feb 2009, 1:35 pm

ruveyn wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
God is the Creator of all things seen and unseen.

Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End.

Omnipresent yet immanent.


And most likely, non-existent. Your beliefs are just that, beliefs, they lack a sound empirical basis. But whatever keeps you warm at night, pull it up to your chin.

ruveyn


Spoken like a true Aspie. :)



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04 Feb 2009, 9:58 pm

slowmutant wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
God is the Creator of all things seen and unseen.

Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End.

Omnipresent yet immanent.


And most likely, non-existent. Your beliefs are just that, beliefs, they lack a sound empirical basis. But whatever keeps you warm at night, pull it up to your chin.

ruveyn


Spoken like a true Aspie. :)


When the foundation of this reality is reduced to its most fundamental level there is 'nothing' left. No matter, no energy; only relationships, information. And that is the fundamental stuff of thoughts. If one continues down the reductionist path then there needs to be a 'first' cause (Note: placement in time of the cause is not relevant because time is relative). So the result is ultimately not 'real' but made of information or 'mind stuff' the logical conclusion is the cause is of the nature of information, thought, consciousness. So God is the pure primordial consciousness and simply is, is real, the I AM.


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04 Feb 2009, 10:02 pm

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Well, you know, when you want something really bad and you close your eyes and you wish for it? God's the guy that ignores you.


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04 Feb 2009, 10:05 pm

twoshots wrote:
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Well, you know, when you want something really bad and you close your eyes and you wish for it? God's the guy that ignores you.

I remember that movie. It wasn't bad, though the end was pretty shameless in ripping off The Matrix. "My name is Lincoln." Really? They couldn't do any better than that? :roll:


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04 Feb 2009, 10:22 pm

oscuria wrote:
Who or What is God?


a figment of delusional people's imagination to make them feel like they belong to something to to fill in the blanks to their questions about the fundamental questions of existence.

In other words; there's no such thing or person.



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05 Feb 2009, 12:25 am

Many things of the past have proven to be otherwise.
The Earth being flat.
The Sun revolving around the Earth.

OK, I said "many" but these are the only ones I can think of, but I'm sure people get the idea



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05 Feb 2009, 2:03 am

OrderAndChaos30 wrote:

When the foundation of this reality is reduced to its most fundamental level there is 'nothing' left. No matter, no energy; only relationships, information. And that is the fundamental stuff of thoughts. If one continues down the reductionist path then there needs to be a 'first' cause (Note: placement in time of the cause is not relevant because time is relative). So the result is ultimately not 'real' but made of information or 'mind stuff' the logical conclusion is the cause is of the nature of information, thought, consciousness. So God is the pure primordial consciousness and simply is, is real, the I AM.


The only mind of which a human being is aware is the one embodied in his brain. Mind, if anything, is what the brain does.

I am of the opinion that Demokritos was right. All there is are ultimate matter and the void.

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05 Feb 2009, 3:15 am

"God is a metaphor for that which trancends all levels of intellectual thought. It's as simple as that."

-Joseph Campbell


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