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31 Mar 2009, 1:49 am

Do people with Asperger's go to heaven with it? if so how can being in a place surrounded by people who you can barely relate to be heaven. and if we dont go with Asperger's are we still who we are? if it doesnt matter what we make of our self in heaven what does it matter if we better our selves, it would be far easier to live as a bum die young and enter heaven like that. and can you ever achieve heaven if your damnation lives inside you?


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31 Mar 2009, 1:52 am

There is no life after death. Once our brain is gone, so is our mind. There is no such thing as a soul.

Sorry. :cry:


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31 Mar 2009, 2:03 am

Asperger people are shunted to Hades where they can spend eternity learning Greek.



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31 Mar 2009, 8:26 am

I wouldn't give up Asperger's for the world. Screw NTs, I'd rather be the out-of-the-box thinker in any situation, bringing up things no one else thinks of. When I go to Heaven, I'd rather not have all my thought processes altered. Asperger's is part of who I am, I would not be me without Asperger's any more than I'd be me if I suddenly stopped being an Eagle Scout.

I do think that since there will be no sin in heaven and everyone will probably be enlightened to some extent, a lot more people will understand us. And no one will be an as*hole up there, so we're not gonna get picked on.

We can leave our sin behind any time we want to, and as often as we need to.



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31 Mar 2009, 8:52 am

Urthred wrote:
Do people with Asperger's go to heaven with it?
yes. but im shure heaven has its problems just like anywhere i mean lets take this little thing that happend right here, apparently one "holy angel" (satan) rebeled in heaven. now first we must ask our selves, why? obviously it wasnt all relax and chill as it is made out to be thts why. OBVIOUSLY, of course someone wanted to be an individual, instead of being told what to do all the time!


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31 Mar 2009, 9:03 am

richardbenson wrote:
Urthred wrote:
Do people with Asperger's go to heaven with it?
yes. but im shure heaven has its problems just like anywhere i mean lets take this little thing that happend right here, apparently one "holy angel" (satan) rebeled in heaven. now first we must ask our selves, why? obviously it wasnt all relax and chill as it is made out to be thts why. OBVIOUSLY, of course someone wanted to be an individual, instead of being told what to do all the time!


If you believe that God is all powerful then Satan's revolt was part of His plan.



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31 Mar 2009, 9:16 am

well thankfully your talking to a guy that doesnt believe that crap, but that is the favorite answer most religious people have. its always gods plan wah wah wah :wink:


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31 Mar 2009, 9:20 am

richardbenson wrote:
well thankfully your talking to a guy that doesnt believe that crap, but that is the favorite answer most religious people have. its always gods plan wah wah wah :wink:


What crap? That God is all perfect? Or that God exists? Or are you a Satanist?



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31 Mar 2009, 9:24 am

how does being a satanist have anything to do with gods plan? or maybe god wanted it in his plans but then that would make gods plans counterproductive. either way i think its all crap, although i must say most people have no knowelege of what satanism really is. its too bad since looking out for #1 isnt such a bad thing anyways


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31 Mar 2009, 9:34 am

richardbenson wrote:
how does being a satanist have anything to do with gods plan? or maybe god wanted it in his plans but then that would make gods plans counterproductive. either way i think its all crap, although i must say most people have no knowelege of what satanism really is. its too bad since looking out for #1 isnt such a bad thing anyways


Ah. So it's all crap. You're an atheist. Or are you?



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31 Mar 2009, 9:46 am

i prefer to leave myself agnostic these days, im open minded but cautious :wink:


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31 Mar 2009, 9:57 am

I don't think God has a "Plan" with a capital P, implying one. I think He sees *all* possible futures, and tries to get us to follow His orders to bring the best one to pass. Most of the time, I think we don't, so we're stuck with what we have here.

This world is not God's plan. To say this is the Plan is to render God powerless, for if there was only one future, God himself could not change it, else there would be two, on with the change, one without.



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31 Mar 2009, 10:54 am

zerooftheday wrote:
I don't think God has a "Plan" with a capital P, implying one. I think He sees *all* possible futures, and tries to get us to follow His orders to bring the best one to pass. Most of the time, I think we don't, so we're stuck with what we have here.

This world is not God's plan. To say this is the Plan is to render God powerless, for if there was only one future, God himself could not change it, else there would be two, on with the change, one without.


But if He sees all futures then there is more than one future and they all happen. Not only that, but He can foresee which one we are in. All those other guys in all those other futures obviously have their own problems.



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31 Mar 2009, 11:03 am

Possible futures. I don't know how to explain it other than to say it's like saying that the penny can flip to heads or tails, if it's heads then I'll flip it again, if tails then I get a quarter. As an event happens, forks close off, and the futures that are no longer possible disappear.

If you've ever read the Sword of Truth books, the descriptions of the threads of prophecy are the best picture of it I know of.



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31 Mar 2009, 11:09 am

Pushing the argument further, I wonder what would happen to a person with a split personality? If the personalities were quite distinct and one was a good old Christian, bible bashing sort that helped little old ladies across the road and the other personality was a mean sod who gave no thought to religion and pushed little old ladies under cars. Would God split them into two souls and send one to purgatory and the other to heaven or would the person spend half his time in each domain? Or would God just shake his head and think what the hell am I going to do with you?


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31 Mar 2009, 11:28 am

Tallyman:

LOL, That's one of the best stump-the-pastor questions I've ever heard. If I ever have a chance to ask him directly, I'll do so.