Praying man let his daughter die

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ShadesOfMe
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04 Aug 2009, 1:04 am

This is religion taken too far....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/americas/8180116.stm

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A US jury has found a man guilty of killing his sick 11-year-old daughter by praying for her recovery rather than seeking medical care.

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04 Aug 2009, 5:16 am

If these people are so determined to prove their faith, why can't they have the courage to do it themselves ala Mark 16:16-18?

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He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

If their faith is so strong, they should have no problem with drinking poison themselves and asking the Lord to protect them, rather than letting their children suffer the consequences of their stupidity. They should put their own lives on the line first, rather than let their innocent children die to futher their own narcissism.

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04 Aug 2009, 6:19 am

bloody sad.

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04 Aug 2009, 6:41 am

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04 Aug 2009, 7:13 am

I was appalled by this. I know this father was probably not abusive and had the child's best interests at heart, but there has to come a time when medicine and religion can work together.

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04 Aug 2009, 8:52 am

This child took weeks to die and was in a great deal of pain. They can say what they like about not knowing and putting her in "gods hands" but they found records that the parents had be seeking medical care for themselves. They didn't even go to any church ethier... I can smell the bullhocky coming off their story from over here. In the US they have been telling us for years what to look for when someone is diabectic. They had to know something was wroung this is a long time health isuse not something that just pops up. It's as bad as if they didn't give the child food or drink may they both rot in hell.

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04 Aug 2009, 9:09 am

How about taking the kid to the specialist and find out what it is, that's making them so sick?

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04 Aug 2009, 3:07 pm

Speechless...

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04 Aug 2009, 10:06 pm

Damn religious people.

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04 Aug 2009, 10:44 pm

I say let's put him in front of a firing squad, say about 5 riflemen, each with one bullet, and if god sees fit to make the riflemen's guns jam or miss their target, then god's will was carried out... if, on the other hand, god sees fit to guide those rounds directly into his cold, cruel heart, or if god stays out of it altogether and lets the laws of physics carry those rounds into this fool, then we can assume that what he did was the wrong thing to do, from God's point of view... if he doesn't die instantly and requires medical care, said medical care should be limited to prayer, but in no case should he be given any more medical care than he gave his child...

A man who truly believes in God's intervention into such matters should readily agree to such an arrangement... if he doesn't, then that would prove that he never really believed that God would save his child and he should be convicted of gross negligence, manslaughter, and reckless endangerment...

and then take him outside and shoot him...

and give him a proper christian burial...

or even better, just give him a proper christian burial without bothering to shoot him first, and let him try to pray his way out...

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05 Aug 2009, 4:57 pm

ShadesOfMe wrote:

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A US jury has found a man guilty of killing his sick 11-year-old daughter by praying for her recovery rather than seeking medical care.

I think people shoudl be charged idiot tax for behaviour like this, and then shot with a ball of their own excrement and thrown in prison for the rest of their lives charged with 'stupidity to the point where it's dangerous to others'. Don't get me wrong, I have no rpoblem with people praying for loved ones (or anyone), but couldn't he have taken her to hospital first?

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06 Aug 2009, 9:47 am

The illness of ignorance topic

There are actually people in this world who do not believe in medical intervention. Illness is seen as a weakness in character or spirit. this is part of the Jehovah Witness faith, though the big restriction is on blood transfusions, not medical intervention.

An inquest into this death would be a good idea, to find out if they belong to a group that opposes specialized medical healing, inoorder to prevent this sort of thing happening again.

Wrongful death. Child neglect. Not providing the necessities of life.

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06 Aug 2009, 12:20 pm

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There was a year long investation plus the trials of both the mother and the father. They belonged to no church or group. They even were seeking medical for them selves but not the three childern in there home. They lived a large nice home and owned a big boat... :roll:

. The were just abusive. An aunt of the childern had tried to get dcf to remove the kids because of the lack of care but for some reason I don't understand failed. She is also the one that called 911 while at the home checking on the childern when the little girl became gravely ill saddly at this point it was too late.

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06 Aug 2009, 11:33 pm

jrknothead wrote:

I agree with the last part of your paragraph, he should be broght up on charges of manslaughter or gross negligence and spend a long time in prison. God gave us the ability to reason and use inquiry for the advancement of knowledge and indirectly he gave us the knowledge of medicine.

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06 Aug 2009, 11:37 pm

Natural selection.

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07 Aug 2009, 2:42 am

sg33 wrote:

Natural selection.

Beat me to it.

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