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08 Jun 2006, 5:52 pm

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Bigots are brainwashed monkey's.


It's bad to underestimate these people some of them are very smart all be it very twisted. I think it's great when they come out like this and lets us know who they are that way we can treat them accordingly the worst one are the ones you never suspect till its too late.


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08 Jun 2006, 6:45 pm

I've got an idea, in public restrooms, water fountains for drinking, government employment and private sector signs that read, no white racists allowed.

Like they did to black folk with the water fountains and restrooms... White and black...



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08 Jun 2006, 7:04 pm

I've been angry at the bigots since I was around 8.

While I see no reason for a racial identity complex I’ve pondered the idea of starting a white race website. Sort of a response to bigots who happen to be white disgracing the white race.

Monkey dung infidels :lol:



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09 Jun 2006, 9:28 am

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anyway i think that is pretty appauling and weird , i'd like to see those girls put in a country, a country with citizens of different race - and those people not accept them -
god some people are thick - i know racism is a matter of opinion but it is only different colour of skin- how pathetic are they? - and their mother- who the hell let her have children?


Actually those groups tend to "thrive" on the hate and it just reinforces their opinion. That is why when there are rallies from groups like this they love it when protesters get out of control and do and say everything to get people riled up (not excluding the possibility of having them put people among the protesters to instigate that either).


In order to combat racism it is important that people hear f
rom people willing to speak up against racism. It's always important to speak up against racism, whether in conversation with your neighbors or at a rally.

Racism is caused by economic conflict. For example, in the Civil War period many Irish people protested in the streets of New York against abolition. These Irish immigrants knew they were the low wage labor force, having been forced from Ireland due to the genocidal famine. These Irish workers had fled from genocide and they were motivated to protest in the US against abolition by fear of losing their jobs. These Irish low wage workers believed that if the South were forced to end slavery the blacks would take the jobs normally given to the Irish at that time. And it was the leaders of industry who instigated these protests because they believed that abolition would ruin U.S. industry. Of course none of these concerns were valid, Irish people integrated as they became "Americanized" and when forced to, industry found other ways to exploit labor.

Racists are almost always afraid of losing something precious to their livelihoods to the other race. The source of racism is almost always based on a fundamental and often media imposed ignorance about economic conflict. In less common cases the racist is mentally ill and suffering from delusions.

In Canada we pride ourselves on multiculturalism. In Canada the parents of the Olsen girls would be charged with hate crimes. But the media would not permit anyone to talk publically about the economic issues that created the racism. And so despite the censorship of racism the economic conflict that caused the racism in the first place would continue and despite all the fancy PC language nothing would be resolved.



I was born in northern ireland and came to england when i was 3 , so i do know a hell of a lot of conflict that goes on there, i know live in a part of england where there is a community of asians and i have witnessed a lot of racism against them and i know some racists- i have had some pretty bad verbal fights with them, because i disagreed and stood up for my anti-racist beliefs.
All the PC thing is rubbish- most people from a ethnic origin don't create these PC standards it's the government- this is what a lot of the racists i've come across don't understand



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09 Jun 2006, 9:37 am

i have just watched racist twins music video- and it is terrible- just awful



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09 Jun 2006, 10:54 am

Hollietheflower wrote:
I was born in northern ireland and came to england when i was 3 , so i do know a hell of a lot of conflict that goes on there, i know live in a part of england where there is a community of asians and i have witnessed a lot of racism against them and i know some racists- i have had some pretty bad verbal fights with them, because i disagreed and stood up for my anti-racist beliefs. All the PC thing is rubbish- most people from a ethnic origin don't create these PC standards it's the government- this is what a lot of the racists i've come across don't understand


I didn't mean to imply in my post that Irish people are inherently any more racist than any other people. Of course they are not. I was just pointing out an example of how racism can be caused by perceived economic conflict, even when there is no basis for such discrimination. I agree PC is supposed to combat racism and the government and various institutions use PC to suppress any analysis or discussion in the media of the true economic causes of racism.



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09 Jun 2006, 10:27 pm

I hear some of them are marketing themselves as "white separatists" and insist that they are not white supremacists. But if you research their stuff, they do still use the same messages of hatred. That part hasn't changed a bit.



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09 Jun 2006, 10:45 pm

There was a few of those here, even some with lyrics posted of it. I've been so angry about stupid ignorant bigots that I could not tolerate them. They were in school, also they are online, there are some people with more subtle discriminations as well.

This superiority complex that is promoted and the racial divisions are de-evolutionary I think.

I use to have a black friend, in fact he was the best friend I ever had.



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11 Jun 2006, 12:10 pm

I don't like racism either and I would prefer it if they weren't racists. However, I cannot deny that they have a right to believe what they want and that parents have a right to teach what they want. At the very least we can all be happy that for the most part racism is not gaining any ground as most people would consider outright racism to be outright offensive and even mild racism is often frowned upon.



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11 Jun 2006, 1:10 pm

I was in the car with a racist bigot one time, mildly moderate. I scorned him and made him eat lunch at a BBQ dinner owned by black persons, we were the only white people there.

I made him interact with them, even a cop in there was black.

Taught him a lesson and he never spoke those words again, well at least when I saw him.



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11 Jun 2006, 7:33 pm

i think that story of those twins is a sad example of homeschooling. i was homeschooled and most homeschoolers i know are not loopy like that. also i think it (homeschooling, not racial supremacy!) is a really valid option for AS people because sometimes you might need to protect your kid from the rest of the people and you might need to have them study at another pace ... faster some things and slower other things...


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11 Jun 2006, 9:16 pm

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{homeschooling}... is a really valid option for AS people because sometimes you might need to protect your kid from the rest of the people and you might need to have them study at another pace ... faster some things and slower other things...


Is that not quite similar to what white supremecists would think as well? Not to pick on you, but you add kind of a new dimension to the discussion. I find it hard to realisticly imagine a type of person spending their whole day thinking of themselves as hateful or mean. I can see somebody thinking that they have all the answers and everybody is wrong (even if their 'answers' sound pretty horrible to us). Interestingly, they call themselves "white nationalists" leading me to believe that they consider themselves to be about "group pride" without realizing that they are putting other people down (that is, realizing that they are taking "action" for their "cause" but not thinking the consequences through). A lot of "groups" think they are the best at some things... this group picked their racial identity as their thing.

I'm fairly interested to see what happens with AS in relation to this basic human issue. Are we going to start seeing some "autistic nationalists" now that the diagnosis/knowledge-there-of is becoming more popular? Heh... fighting off the lowly NT hordes.



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12 Jun 2006, 7:02 am

unclenutcracker wrote:
I'm fairly interested to see what happens with AS in relation to this basic human issue. Are we going to start seeing some "autistic nationalists" now that the diagnosis/knowledge-there-of is becoming more popular? Heh... fighting off the lowly NT hordes.


Oh, I think there already are autistic nationalists. and I don't think that I'm better because of being AS just as NT are not better because of being NT. it's just a forma de ser. (a way to be, among other ways.)

But I think bullying can be very distracting from one's actual education. Plus, from what I have heard, some AS people can learn more alone than in the classroom, and they should get that opportunity, as education and academia is what rescues many of us in adult life.

Oh by the way, I didn't mean to imply that homeschooling is only useful for AS people. I was homeschooled for academic and religious reasons, long before ever hearing about AS. Homeschooling has actually got a lot of positive applications, for many things that different kids might have going on in their lives.

But just like in regular school you have to teach the kids to think, not so much WHAT to think (although we should teach children good values, and to treat other people right), but HOW to think, so that they can figure out stuff for themselves and eventually have their own ideas.
BTW, I've been in both, and I felt much more brainwashed in public school than in homeschool. but that's another topic for another day.


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14 Jun 2006, 8:05 am

That was just wrong how can they get away with it?



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16 Jun 2006, 8:55 pm

Someone sent this in another forum. I think it explains some things I was trying to explain earlier.

http://www.nhen.org/specneed/default.asp?id=246


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19 Jun 2006, 4:32 am

I've got an idea, in public restrooms, water fountains for drinking, government employment and private sector signs that read, no white racists allowed.

How about no racists allowed at all? Kinda ironic to say 'No white racists', huh?