Will airports screen for body signals?

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08 Oct 2009, 8:35 pm

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I hope not! I'd hate to think that one day I'll need an official diagnosis in order to travel without being detained as a terrorist due to inappropriate body signals, overstimulation/meltdown because of being tested in such a way, etc.



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08 Oct 2009, 11:30 pm

I was think how much hard this would make traveling with my auntie son my husand and I alway are super stress and so our both the kids. Nothing like a over crowded airport with a kid on the verge of a meltdown the guy going to blow himself up looks cool beside us.



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09 Oct 2009, 12:30 am

It seems ludicrous that they would have people who have an average IQ of less than 60 trying to evaluate the body language of total strangers.



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09 Oct 2009, 2:51 am

Remnant wrote:
It seems ludicrous that they would have people who have an average IQ of less than 60 trying to evaluate the body language of total strangers.


There's a lot of stories of the TSA doing eminently more ludicrous things in this travel blog http://www.gadling.com/

But first, there's this :arrow:

http://www.gadling.com/2008/11/22/tsas- ... -the-time/
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A program the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) began in 2006 that attempts to catch terrorists and other criminals by their suspicious behavior has been wrong over 99% of the time, according to the TSA's own numbers.

The program, which trains TSA screeners to detect suspicious or odd behavior in passengers, has resulted in 160,000 stops of passengers, including pat-downs and in-depth questioning. Yet only 1,266 arrests were made out of those 160,000 stops, mostly for drug possession and carrying fake identification.

Unsurprisingly, many are critical of the "behavior detection" program, including Carnegie Mellon professor Stephen Fienberg, who calls the program "a sham," and says, "We have no evidence it works." Other scientists say that while objective observers may be able to detect nervous behavior, there's no way to tell whether it's because they're planning a terrorist attack or traveling to have an extramarital affair.

TSA spokesperson Ellen Howe puts a more positive spin on the numbers, however. She says the program has been "incredibly effective" at catching criminals.

Indeed. Saying the program is "wrong 99% of the time" sounds so negative. Why not say it has a success rate of almost 1%?


http://www.gadling.com/2008/03/07/airpo ... eens-life/
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An ill Orlando teenager was thwarted in the screening line of Orlando International Airport a few weeks ago, when security workers for the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) insisted on inspecting a back-up feeding tube he carries with him in a sealed, clear sterilized plastic bag.

James Hoyne, 14, has a feeding tube in his stomach and always has a second one in reserve, if he needs it. Orlando television station WFTV reports that a TSA officer opened the back-up tube to inspect it, over the teen's objections, thus contaminating the feeding tube that Hoyne said he turned out to later need.


http://www.gadling.com/2008/10/22/woman ... -my-ankle/
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A Washington state woman is on the hunt for a lawyer to go after the Transportation Security Administration, after screeners at the Pasco, Washington airport made her remove a foot brace she was wearing for a sprained ankle.

Screeners at the airport not only made her remove the brace -- apparently against regulations -- but then made her balance on one foot, then the other.


http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/27/tsa-p ... ng-search/
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A 71 year old man was recently searched because he had a prosthetic knee, and the TSA officer went so far as to remove the man's pants in plain sight of the checkpoint to insure that he wasn't hiding anything.


http://www.gadling.com/2008/08/20/tsa-i ... ht-delays/
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According to this ABC News report, an inspector at Chicago's O'Hare Airport used sensitive instrument probes as handholds while climbing into nine American Eagle airplanes. These TAT probes, pictured, are important to the operation of flight computers. As a result, 40 commuter flights were delayed.


http://www.gadling.com/2007/09/18/tsa-p ... boxcutter/

http://www.gadling.com/2007/08/23/tsa-s ... ith-knife/

http://www.gadling.com/2009/04/02/tsa-d ... ying-cash/

http://www.gadling.com/2008/10/16/yet-a ... nd-badges/
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One of the most startling pieces of news in the report is that ex-TSA workers are not always returning their security badges, which can be used to enter "sterile areas" of the airport. They are also frequently keeping their uniforms. Amazingly, the TSA does not always seem to be in a hurry to get them back.


http://www.gadling.com/2008/04/25/tsa-s ... snt-fired/

http://www.gadling.com/2009/02/18/angry ... search-th/

http://www.gadling.com/2008/08/26/under ... er-flight/

http://www.gadling.com/2008/03/27/tsa-h ... ple-rings/

http://www.gadling.com/2008/03/08/macbo ... -security/

http://www.gadling.com/2009/04/15/crema ... a-says-oo/

http://www.gadling.com/2009/02/23/tsa-c ... -finds-it/

And there's plenty more where these came from.


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09 Oct 2009, 3:10 am

Yea, better allow an extra hour at the airport.



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09 Oct 2009, 7:18 am

This advert was on my e-mail page a few minutes ago;

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09 Oct 2009, 8:59 am

Those stories are nightmareish Southwestforests especially the broken ankle one, little Bonepart syndrome with those idiots but I think the OP is talking about computer facial and gait scanning. The compuiter can evaluate what your up to from the way you walk or the strain on your face believe it or not.

It's not just airports that will be using this technology. In the UK it's impossible to walk through a city or major town without being caught on CCTV, I'm pretty sure the technology is already in use in London.

The first time I looked into this I did a google search and it was mainly companies selling systems for the work place, no need to stamp your time card when the computer recognizes who you are just by your walk and there's no way a buddy can stamp it for you either.

It's apparently also being rolled out in all new cars in the States (don't know how true this is), a camera in the rear view mirror scans your face and can tell if you're experienceing road rage or drunk or asleep or whatever and if it's looking dangerous it contacts the police and they track you down. I think it's the insurance companies that are pushing this one.

Seriously this technology is real and is being used. If we're lucky the developers will recognize and compensate for autistic walkers but what are the chances?


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11 Nov 2009, 12:25 am

I know that traffic signal cameras are a scam because in Kansas City they pay the company $4500 a month per camera as a rental fee.