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15 Jan 2010, 12:23 pm

Where do I get a job at the call center? I could do a better job. Prescribe some bed rest and stepsils. If things take a turn for the worst will drop some Tamiflu in... unless you're pregant. In that case, it's best not to risk it.



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17 Jan 2010, 1:30 pm

Is dark green vomit a sign of Swine Flu? I've read on the Internet that it is.

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17 Jan 2010, 4:14 pm

Dark green vomit is a sign that you've recently eaten spinach, and then thrown up (for reasons which may or may not be related to the spinach).


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19 Jan 2010, 9:14 pm

Just got this in an e-mail and thought I'd pass it on...

Please read right to the end.


You all may know about this but some of the effects aren't very pleasant as my friend found out some time ago and we realized how the onion could be to blame. I now try to get only small onions!! ! A.


Very Important ....especially for those who love to cook and eat ONIONS!! !! !!

ONIONS

In 1919 when the flu killed 40 million people there was this Doctor that visited the many farmers to see if he could help them combat the flu.
Many of the farmers and their family had contracted it and many died.
The doctor came upon this one farmer and to his surprise, everyone was very healthy. When the doctor asked what the farmer was doing that was different the wife replied that she had placed an unpeeled onion in a dish in the rooms of the home, (probably only two rooms back then). The doctor couldn't believe it and asked if he could have one of the onions and place it under the microscope. She gave him one and when he did this, he did find the flu virus in the onion. It obviously absorbed the bacteria, therefore, keeping the family healthy.

Now, I heard this story from my hairdresser in NZ. She said that several years ago many of her employees were coming down with the flu and so were many of her customers. The next year she placed several bowls with onions around in her shop. To her surprise, none of her staff got sick. It must work. (And no, she is not in the onion business.)
The moral of the story is, buy some onions and place them in bowls around your home. If you work at a desk, place one or two in your office or under your desk or even on top somewhere. Try it and see what happens. We did it last year and we never got the flu.
If this helps you and your loved ones from getting sick, all the better. If you do get the flu, it just might be a mild case.
Whatever, what have you to lose? Just a few bucks on onions!! !! !! !! !! !! !!
Now there is a P. S. to this for I sent it to a friend in Oregon who regularly contributes material to me on health issues. She replied with this most interesting experience about onions:

"Thanks for the reminder. I don't know about the farmers story...but, I do know that I contacted pneumonia and needless to say I was very ill...I came across an article that said to cut both ends off an onion put one end on a fork and then place the forked end into an empty jar...placing the jar next to the sick patient at night. It said the onion would be black in the morning from the germs... sure enough it happened just like that...the onion was a mess and I began to feel better."

Another thing I read in the article was that onions and garlic placed around the room saved many from the black plague years ago. They have powerful antibacterial, antiseptic properties.

But here is the other important side to remember.

LEFT OVER ONIONS ARE POISONOUS

I have used an onion which has been left in the fridge, and sometimes I don't use a whole one at one time, so save the other half for later.

Now with this info, I have changed my mind.....will buy smaller onions in the future.

I had the wonderful privilege of touring Mullins Food Products, Makers of mayonnaise. Mullins is huge, and is owned by 11 brothers and sisters in the Mullins family. My friend, Jeanne, is the CEO.

Questions about food poisoning came up, and I wanted to share what I learned from a chemist.

The guy who gave us our tour is named Ed. He's one of the brothers Ed is a chemistry expert and is involved in developing most of the sauce formula.. He's even developed sauce formula for McDonald's.

Keep in mind that Ed is a food chemistry whiz. During the tour, someone asked if we really needed to worry about mayonnaise. People are always worried that mayonnaise will spoil. Ed's answer will surprise you. Ed said that all commercially- made Mayo is completely safe.

"It doesn't even have to be refrigerated. No harm in refrigerating it, but it's not really necessary." He explained that the pH in mayonnaise is set at a point that bacteria could not survive in that environment. He then talked about the quaint essential picnic, with the bowl of potato salad
sitting on the table and how everyone blames the mayonnaise when someone gets sick.

Ed says that when food poisoning is reported, the first thing the officials look for is when the 'victim' last ate ONIONS and where those onions came from (in the potato salad?). Ed says it's not the mayonnaise (as long as it's not homemade Mayo) that spoils in the outdoors. It's probably the onions, and if not the onions, it's the POTATOES.

He explained, onions are a huge magnet for bacteria, especially uncooked onions. You should never plan to keep a portion of a sliced onion. He says it's not even safe if you put it in a zip-lock bag and put it in your refrigerator.

It's already contaminated enough just by being cut open and out for a bit, that it can be a danger to you (and doubly watch out for those onions you put in your hotdogs at the baseball park!)

Ed says if you take the leftover onion and cook it like crazy you'll probably be okay, but if you slice that leftover onion and put on your sandwich, you're asking for trouble. Both the onions and the moist potato in a potato salad, will attract and grow bacteria faster than any commercial mayonnaise will even begin to break down.

So, how's that for news? Take it for what you will. I (the author) am going to be very careful about my onions from now on. For some reason, I see a lot of credibility coming from a chemist and a company that produces millions of pounds of mayonnaise every year.'

Also, dogs should never eat onions. Their stomachs cannot metabolize onions ..

Please remember it is dangerous to cut onions and try to use it to cook the next day, it becomes highly poisonous for even a single night and creates Toxic bacteria which may cause Adverse Stomach infections because of excess Bile secretions and even Food poisoning.

Please pass it on to all you love and care.


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19 Feb 2010, 1:20 pm

In bad flu years, roughly one out of three people will get the flu. Which means two out of three won’t. And thus, all kinds of home remedies can appear to work.

WHO calls for continued vigilance against influenza A(H1N1) in the Western Pacific Region, MANILA, 12 May 2009.
http://www.wpro.who.int/media_centre/ne ... 090512.htm

“ . . . WHO believes that based on past pandemics and analysis of the currently available data, up to one third of the world's population could yet get infected by influenza A(H1N1). . . ”



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19 Feb 2010, 1:31 pm

H1N1 Attacked More London Youth Than Doctors Found, Study Says,
Jason Gale, BusinessWeek (Bloomberg), Jan. 21, 2010.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... -says.html

“ . . . Tests for infection-fighting antibodies against the new H1N1 strain on almost 2,000 blood samples showed as many as one in three children caught the virus in the pandemic’s first wave in England, according to a study in the medical journal the Lancet today. The scientists compared blood samples with specimens collected before the pandemic to gauge infection rates, even in people who had no fever, cough or other flu symptoms. . . ”



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19 Feb 2010, 1:39 pm

Most of the symptoms are nickel-and-dime, but if you start to have trouble breathing, get help pronto! The following is from a WHO virtual press conference back in November.

Dr. Nikki Shindo, Medical Officer, Global Influenza Programme, World Health Organization, 12 November 2009.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/vpc_tran ... shindo.pdf

“ . . . 2. Secondly, people who are not from the at-risk group but who have persistent or rapidly worsening symptoms should also be treated with antivirals. These symptoms include difficulty breathing and a high fever that lasts beyond 3 days. . . ”



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19 Apr 2010, 8:34 pm

i got vaccinated but got the swineflu anyways. Hard to breath, very tired, stuffy nose. got better then got worse then went away.



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10 May 2010, 1:24 pm

gumbygumby wrote:
i got vaccinated but got the swineflu anyways. Hard to breath, very tired, stuffy nose. got better then got worse then went away.

Damn, I wish I would have read this before. I'm glad you're okay. That's the important thing. Next time, if you have trouble breathing, please get help right away. The virus could have gone deeply enough in you lungs to cause direct viral pneumonia, or it could be secondary bacterial pneumonia. In addition, there's a pattern in which you start to get better and then relapse with high fever:

Report Finds Swine Flu Has Killed 36 Children, New York Times, DENISE GRADY, Sept. 3, 2009.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/healt ... .html?_r=1
“ . . . In children without chronic health problems, it is a warning sign if they seem to recover from the flu but then relapse with a high fever, Dr. Frieden said. The relapse may be bacterial pneumonia, which must be treated with antibiotics. . . ”

And presumably the same is true for adults, too.

Okay, as far as the vaccine, it's not 100% plus it takes about 10 days for the immunity to build up following the shot.

(I am not a doctor. Some news stories I follow intensively, as I have swine flu (perhaps a special interest?). And I feel I can't go too far wrong citing the best sources I can find.)



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07 Jun 2010, 7:01 pm

Why has this topic been stickied? One from 1976 could even be up there, above real news, if the technology had been available then.



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25 Jun 2010, 4:08 pm

Asponaut wrote:
Why has this topic been stickied? . . .

Even with the Southern Hemisphere flu season coming up pretty much right now and the Northern Hemisphere's next flu season merely their second full run of H1N1, I will go out on a limb (merely as a scientifically literate person, not a doctor) and say it's no longer the risk of doubling or tripling baseline mortality that it perhaps once was. However, please do remember that the baseline for regular seasonal flu is approximately 36,000 deaths a year in the United States. That is, roughly comparable to motor vehicle fatalities. And the prime lesson, if you start to have trouble breathing, get some damn help. Even if you are a strong healthy person with an excellent immune system, that can work against you in that the alveoli sacs can fill with fluid from an overly active immune system. Probably going to be okay, but you might as well avail yourself of what help is currently available. (Again, I am not a doctor. Influenza has merely become a recent interest of mine, and I include references above and will add at least one more below.)

All the same, at this point, I will agree with un-sticking the topic.



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25 Jun 2010, 4:30 pm

Hospitalized Patients with 2009 H1N1 Influenza in the United States, April–June 2009, Seema Jain, M.D., Laurie Kamimoto, M.D., M.P.H., Anna M. Bramley, M.P.H., Ann M. Schmitz, D.V.M., Stephen R. Benoit, M.D., M.P.H., . . . et al., New England Journal of Medicine, Volume 361:1935-1944, November 12, 2009.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/ful ... 906695#R10

[from Methods, Study Design] “From May 1, 2009, to June 9, 2009, data regarding the first hospitalized patients in each participating state . . . ”

[from Discussion section] " . . . Better studies are needed to correlate radiographic findings with the cause of pneumonia during influenza outbreaks. In our study, only 73% of patients with radiographic evidence of pneumonia received antiviral drugs, whereas 97% received antibiotics. In the absence of accurate diagnostic methods, patients who are hospitalized with suspected influenza and lung infiltrates on chest radiography should be considered for treatment with both antibiotics and antiviral drugs.[10] . . . ”

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One more reason why, when a friend or family member is in the hospital, it’s often a good idea to have someone advocating on their behalf. Not to besiege the doctor, but to ask the two or three key questions, that kind of thing.