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13 May 2011, 2:36 pm
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13 May 2011, 3:07 pm
jojobean wrote:
I thought I would run this by you all to see if it has any validity
As I mentioned in another post, since the begining of mesopotamia (region of the middle east in ancient times) till now there has been only 200 years of peace in this region. I was told this a few years ago by my college history professor. This got me thinking...Why???
Well there has been many changes in goverments since then, and some not so much, but I have this idea that the conflict is caused by the natrual surroundings. Well first you have a desert...very hot and arid. Studies in psychology have proven that people are on average more aggressive in the heat than they are in temperate weather and colder weather. If you dont believe me, get a married couple in a house in the deep south without A/C for 3 months and see how well they get along. (its not pretty, I know)
So the heat in the middle east can easily get up to 115 degrees...sometimes 120.
Also look at the 2 rivers in that area tigris and the other one I cant pronounce....these two rivers are highly unpredictable and are prone to flooding without much warning and they run right down the middle of most conflicted regions. i dont think this is a coiniedence (sp), over time, the unpredictability of these rivers, in my opinion, may have caused a cultural post traumatic stress disorder. Science has learned that PTSD can alter the genes of its victims and then ptsd is passed on to offspring. With ptsd, one will see violent outbursts and unpredictable behavior, as well as many other things. So this unforgiving climate, unpredictable rivers gave rise to a very a very hostile culture. The same thing can be seen in similar conditions of Africa such as the desert regions of Sudan.
What do you think? Do a have a valid point?
As I mentioned in another post, since the begining of mesopotamia (region of the middle east in ancient times) till now there has been only 200 years of peace in this region. I was told this a few years ago by my college history professor. This got me thinking...Why???
Well there has been many changes in goverments since then, and some not so much, but I have this idea that the conflict is caused by the natrual surroundings. Well first you have a desert...very hot and arid. Studies in psychology have proven that people are on average more aggressive in the heat than they are in temperate weather and colder weather. If you dont believe me, get a married couple in a house in the deep south without A/C for 3 months and see how well they get along. (its not pretty, I know)
So the heat in the middle east can easily get up to 115 degrees...sometimes 120.
Also look at the 2 rivers in that area tigris and the other one I cant pronounce....these two rivers are highly unpredictable and are prone to flooding without much warning and they run right down the middle of most conflicted regions. i dont think this is a coiniedence (sp), over time, the unpredictability of these rivers, in my opinion, may have caused a cultural post traumatic stress disorder. Science has learned that PTSD can alter the genes of its victims and then ptsd is passed on to offspring. With ptsd, one will see violent outbursts and unpredictable behavior, as well as many other things. So this unforgiving climate, unpredictable rivers gave rise to a very a very hostile culture. The same thing can be seen in similar conditions of Africa such as the desert regions of Sudan.
What do you think? Do a have a valid point?
This whole... thing... is just drenched in so much unchecked first-world privilege and pseudoscientific racism.
13 May 2011, 3:45 pm
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13 May 2011, 3:50 pm
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13 May 2011, 3:52 pm
yellow-eyeballs wrote:
jojobean wrote:
I thought I would run this by you all to see if it has any validity
As I mentioned in another post, since the begining of mesopotamia (region of the middle east in ancient times) till now there has been only 200 years of peace in this region. I was told this a few years ago by my college history professor. This got me thinking...Why???
Well there has been many changes in goverments since then, and some not so much, but I have this idea that the conflict is caused by the natrual surroundings. Well first you have a desert...very hot and arid. Studies in psychology have proven that people are on average more aggressive in the heat than they are in temperate weather and colder weather. If you dont believe me, get a married couple in a house in the deep south without A/C for 3 months and see how well they get along. (its not pretty, I know)
So the heat in the middle east can easily get up to 115 degrees...sometimes 120.
Also look at the 2 rivers in that area tigris and the other one I cant pronounce....these two rivers are highly unpredictable and are prone to flooding without much warning and they run right down the middle of most conflicted regions. i dont think this is a coiniedence (sp), over time, the unpredictability of these rivers, in my opinion, may have caused a cultural post traumatic stress disorder. Science has learned that PTSD can alter the genes of its victims and then ptsd is passed on to offspring. With ptsd, one will see violent outbursts and unpredictable behavior, as well as many other things. So this unforgiving climate, unpredictable rivers gave rise to a very a very hostile culture. The same thing can be seen in similar conditions of Africa such as the desert regions of Sudan.
What do you think? Do a have a valid point?
As I mentioned in another post, since the begining of mesopotamia (region of the middle east in ancient times) till now there has been only 200 years of peace in this region. I was told this a few years ago by my college history professor. This got me thinking...Why???
Well there has been many changes in goverments since then, and some not so much, but I have this idea that the conflict is caused by the natrual surroundings. Well first you have a desert...very hot and arid. Studies in psychology have proven that people are on average more aggressive in the heat than they are in temperate weather and colder weather. If you dont believe me, get a married couple in a house in the deep south without A/C for 3 months and see how well they get along. (its not pretty, I know)
So the heat in the middle east can easily get up to 115 degrees...sometimes 120.
Also look at the 2 rivers in that area tigris and the other one I cant pronounce....these two rivers are highly unpredictable and are prone to flooding without much warning and they run right down the middle of most conflicted regions. i dont think this is a coiniedence (sp), over time, the unpredictability of these rivers, in my opinion, may have caused a cultural post traumatic stress disorder. Science has learned that PTSD can alter the genes of its victims and then ptsd is passed on to offspring. With ptsd, one will see violent outbursts and unpredictable behavior, as well as many other things. So this unforgiving climate, unpredictable rivers gave rise to a very a very hostile culture. The same thing can be seen in similar conditions of Africa such as the desert regions of Sudan.
What do you think? Do a have a valid point?
This whole... thing... is just drenched in so much unchecked first-world privilege and pseudoscientific racism.
really?? How so??
13 May 2011, 3:56 pm
yellow-eyeballs
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13 May 2011, 4:12 pm
jojobean wrote:
yellow-eyeballs wrote:
jojobean wrote:
I thought I would run this by you all to see if it has any validity
As I mentioned in another post, since the begining of mesopotamia (region of the middle east in ancient times) till now there has been only 200 years of peace in this region. I was told this a few years ago by my college history professor. This got me thinking...Why???
Well there has been many changes in goverments since then, and some not so much, but I have this idea that the conflict is caused by the natrual surroundings. Well first you have a desert...very hot and arid. Studies in psychology have proven that people are on average more aggressive in the heat than they are in temperate weather and colder weather. If you dont believe me, get a married couple in a house in the deep south without A/C for 3 months and see how well they get along. (its not pretty, I know)
So the heat in the middle east can easily get up to 115 degrees...sometimes 120.
Also look at the 2 rivers in that area tigris and the other one I cant pronounce....these two rivers are highly unpredictable and are prone to flooding without much warning and they run right down the middle of most conflicted regions. i dont think this is a coiniedence (sp), over time, the unpredictability of these rivers, in my opinion, may have caused a cultural post traumatic stress disorder. Science has learned that PTSD can alter the genes of its victims and then ptsd is passed on to offspring. With ptsd, one will see violent outbursts and unpredictable behavior, as well as many other things. So this unforgiving climate, unpredictable rivers gave rise to a very a very hostile culture. The same thing can be seen in similar conditions of Africa such as the desert regions of Sudan.
What do you think? Do a have a valid point?
As I mentioned in another post, since the begining of mesopotamia (region of the middle east in ancient times) till now there has been only 200 years of peace in this region. I was told this a few years ago by my college history professor. This got me thinking...Why???
Well there has been many changes in goverments since then, and some not so much, but I have this idea that the conflict is caused by the natrual surroundings. Well first you have a desert...very hot and arid. Studies in psychology have proven that people are on average more aggressive in the heat than they are in temperate weather and colder weather. If you dont believe me, get a married couple in a house in the deep south without A/C for 3 months and see how well they get along. (its not pretty, I know)
So the heat in the middle east can easily get up to 115 degrees...sometimes 120.
Also look at the 2 rivers in that area tigris and the other one I cant pronounce....these two rivers are highly unpredictable and are prone to flooding without much warning and they run right down the middle of most conflicted regions. i dont think this is a coiniedence (sp), over time, the unpredictability of these rivers, in my opinion, may have caused a cultural post traumatic stress disorder. Science has learned that PTSD can alter the genes of its victims and then ptsd is passed on to offspring. With ptsd, one will see violent outbursts and unpredictable behavior, as well as many other things. So this unforgiving climate, unpredictable rivers gave rise to a very a very hostile culture. The same thing can be seen in similar conditions of Africa such as the desert regions of Sudan.
What do you think? Do a have a valid point?
This whole... thing... is just drenched in so much unchecked first-world privilege and pseudoscientific racism.
really?? How so??
Not all people living in hot, dry regions are inherently aggressive, as techn0teen said. There is more that affects a person's behavior - or the political state of the Middle East - than climate and geography alone. Large-scale conflict anywhere is primarily politically motivated.
And the "cultural PTSD" thing just sounds entirely false. There is a reason why it's called post-traumatic stress disorder (as in it shows up after personally going through a traumatic experience), not "my ancestors lived in a flood-prone region so now my people are stressed out as a result" disorder.
ETA: The agricultural Mesopotamian society relied on the periodic flooding of the rivers to deposit silt onto the farmland to enrich the soil and increase crop yields. After the rivers receded, the farmers knew that they could start planting. (Thank you, 9th grade social studies.)
13 May 2011, 4:45 pm
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