Bombings in Oslo, Norway; shootings

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I know one guy from Norway. He thinks the group may be affiliated with the neo-nazies. Who knows, it's just a tragedy and one where you wouldn't exactly expect it to happen.

Before we start to all blame it on a islamic terror group lets wait for some evidence, it italy years ago there was a gang of right wingers who are thought to have done a series of terror attacks as part of the "strategy of tension". The rightwingers wanted the violence to be blamed on the left wing terror organisations, the idea was for the right wingers to get a political advantage.

So somethings things are not quite what they seem at first.

It turns out the guy was a Norwegian, it seems as if this is a right-wing nut who wanted to target the Labour Party who have been the dominant party in Norway for decades by mainly targeting the summer camp of their youth wing. It seems weird to me that he targeted a mostly empty building complex in july -- only 7 people were killed -- was the main target. I'm sure that it was the youth camp that was the main target.

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At least 80 shot dead at the youth camp at Utøya. :/

Gee, that narrows it down.


WTF?!?!?!?!?
Considering it was a lone gunman and your post still describes him in the plural, you were right by accident. Had it been Arab immigrants, it would have been strange had it not been religiously motivated. I don't know where you get your information, but Gabrielle Gifford was a victim and didn't do anything to get charged with. And the NRA has NEVER been linked to any terrorist activity.

Nope, dont think it was Islamic terrorists. Right wing extremist perhaps?

Ref Gabrielle Giffords see my edit.

"You're either with us or you are with the terrorists," U.S. President Bush in November 2001

The U.S. criminal code makes aiding and abetting a federal crime itself a crime:
(a) Whoever aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures the commission of an offense, is punishable as a principal.
(b) Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense, is punishable as a principal.

Any person who aids and abets terrorism shall be considered a terrorist

Providing material support to terrorists

(b) Definitions.— As used in this section—
(1) the term “material support or resources” means any property, tangible or intangible, or service, including currency or monetary instruments or financial securities, financial services, lodging, training, expert advice or assistance, safehouses, false documentation or identification, communications equipment, facilities, weapons, lethal substances, explosives, personnel

2005 the NRA opposed a law that would prevent known terrorists from buying guns and explosives. In that same year ¾ of the guns purchased by known terrorist or suspected terrorists were approved by the federal law enforcement officials.

Some of you people are despicable and probably horribly brainwashed. They're saying the guy looked "Nordic" and was probably a right wing extremist:

"The suspect is reported by local media to have had links with right-wing extremists. The authorities have named him as Anders Behring Breivik. His Oslo apartment was searched overnight.

The BBC's Richard Galpin, near the island, says that Norway has had problems with neo-Nazi groups in the past but the assumption was that such groups had been largely eliminated and did not pose a significant threat."

So it looks like the eeeevil Muslims didn't do it, how about that, does it blow your little minds?!

I really wish Wrongplanet had an "ignore user" button

The NRA has not and will not give guns to people they suspect are involved in terrorist activity. The NRA has not committed any crime because they did not furnish weapons to terrorists. The NRA's involvement in congress related to influencing how laws would be constructed to confront terrorism. Everything they did was perfectly legal. The NRA-ILA have a huge army of very good and very expensive lawyers that work on legislation and cases like that. The FFL dealers did not do anything wrong either because they followed background check procedures, were cleared by the FBI's clearinghouse to make the sale, and they had no knowledge of what the customer did in his private life. The NRA opposes prohibiting people from purchasing guns because they are on a watch list because of how incompetently the list is handled. People with a similar name, have business with a suspect, or are related to a suspect, or were put on the list by mistake or bad intelligence are all put on this secret list that takes a legal battle to get off of. If the evidence for someone is so good that the government needs to monitor them for terrorist activity, then prosecute them. Felons can't have guns legally. If they are acquitted, then leave them alone. If they investigate someone and find nothing conclusive, close the case and delete them from the list. Right now, the standard for putting someone on a watch list is simply getting a tip about them. If a government electronic intelligence network picks up your name simply because someone they are interested in uses the same website, or if you are caught on FBI surveillance video having a polite chat with the 7-11 clerk while you pay for your slurpee, or if your cousin isn't right in the head and makes a bunch of threats to politicians, you shouldn't be included on that list. Should someone really lose their gun rights or lose their virginity to TSA over that? Depriving people of rights without any due process based only on a tip being put on a secret list is grossly unconstitutional. I hope you don't intend to get into events in Mexico, because the Obama administration's involvement that is growing every day now.

I've included a source you are more likely to trust regarding the watch list:
http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/watch-lists

The murderer is a fundamentalist christian anti-immigration nationalist.

There is no such thing as a right wing extremist. Terrorists are all either religious based or Marxist Anarchist Terrorists from the LEFT.

The Norwegian terrorist possibly had Aspergers Syndrome and AS may help explain his actions to a certain extent.

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Impressive displays of bigotry in this thread. Interesting that the man suspected of doing this turns out to be in the same ideological neighborhood as those who want to blame Muslims for everything. He was openly anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim.

Yes, there is such a thing as right wing extremism. Yes, young white men can be terrorists. It is the act which defines a terrorist, not his ethnicity, nor his political or religious beliefs.

The answer to you is you are







So you’re using the example of “a leftwing nut job organisation” defending a “right wing nut job organisation” as a way of “making your Point”
I’m sorry but a group who follow the letter of the law to defend Nazi baby killers and the KKK, without caring one iota about the spirit of the law, standing up for a bunch of people who recite chapter and versa about their rights but a Strangely quiet on their duty and responsibilities.

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The news says he is right wing.

The majority of Americans obtain their news from Fox News. Fox News tells them that Terrorists/Nazis/Communists are left wing extremists.

According to Fox News there is no such thing as Right wing extremists or a right wing Terrorist. The Americans believe almost everything they watch on Fox News.

The way the news is reported in the US and focuses on the right wing conservatives being the good guys and the left wing liberals being the bad guys.