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What do you think of Obama's jobs plan?
I support all or most of it. 42%  42%  [ 5 ]
I support some parts and oppose other parts. 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
I oppose all or most of it. 33%  33%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 12

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09 Sep 2011, 12:23 am

So Obama gave a speech about his jobs plan, the American Jobs Act, to both houses of Congress. If you haven't watched it, go watch it or read a transcript, come back to this thread, vote in the poll, and post your opinion. Let the debate begin!



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09 Sep 2011, 12:27 am

As it turns out, I would like to request that this thread be moved to Politics, Philosophy, and Religion.



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09 Sep 2011, 1:53 am

It's just the second stimulus plan that Obama and Pelosi have been working to repackage.


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09 Sep 2011, 11:18 pm

Until I know what's in it, and how they will pay for it, I'm opposing all of it.


Also all those jobs in construction and stuff, aren't going to happen because we're coming up on winter, and roads, bridges, buildings tend to be built in summer months for safety reasons among other things.



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10 Sep 2011, 5:28 am

A temporary construction job is still a job. And our infrastructure is coming apart at the seams, so this job plan is definitely timely. And even if the winter weather will cut into construction, there's still next Spring.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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10 Sep 2011, 8:26 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Until I know what's in it, and how they will pay for it, I'm opposing all of it.


Also all those jobs in construction and stuff, aren't going to happen because we're coming up on winter, and roads, bridges, buildings tend to be built in summer months for safety reasons among other things.


Your first point is the salient point. I was not impressed when the Boy Prince said cross my heart and hope to die. It will all be paid for. Then he failed to say how.

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10 Sep 2011, 4:12 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
A temporary construction job is still a job. And our infrastructure is coming apart at the seams, so this job plan is definitely timely. And even if the winter weather will cut into construction, there's still next Spring.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Uh you can't even start on construction with winter coming up, because you probably will have to tear stuff up and start over.

Spring is a horrible time to do construction due to the fact with spring comes a lot of raining, snowmelt, etc.



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10 Sep 2011, 4:22 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
A temporary construction job is still a job. And our infrastructure is coming apart at the seams, so this job plan is definitely timely. And even if the winter weather will cut into construction, there's still next Spring.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Uh you can't even start on construction with winter coming up, because you probably will have to tear stuff up and start over.

Spring is a horrible time to do construction due to the fact with spring comes a lot of raining, snowmelt, etc.


Then Summer!
But seriously, I'm sure there are still plenty of jobs that can be done, even in winter.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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10 Sep 2011, 4:26 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Then Summer!
But seriously, I'm sure there are still plenty of jobs that can be done, even in winter.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Hire the unemployed to shovel snow.

In the D.C. area, hire the unemployed to shovel sh*t.

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10 Sep 2011, 4:37 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Then Summer!
But seriously, I'm sure there are still plenty of jobs that can be done, even in winter.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Hire the unemployed to shovel snow.

In the D.C. area, hire the unemployed to shovel sh*t.

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Hey, every little job helps.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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10 Sep 2011, 4:56 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
A temporary construction job is still a job. And our infrastructure is coming apart at the seams, so this job plan is definitely timely. And even if the winter weather will cut into construction, there's still next Spring.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Uh you can't even start on construction with winter coming up, because you probably will have to tear stuff up and start over.

Spring is a horrible time to do construction due to the fact with spring comes a lot of raining, snowmelt, etc.


Then Summer!
But seriously, I'm sure there are still plenty of jobs that can be done, even in winter.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I thought these jobs were supposed to start tomorrow? Not maybe sometime next year.

Kraichgauer, you're incredibly naive and gullible.



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10 Sep 2011, 9:40 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
A temporary construction job is still a job. And our infrastructure is coming apart at the seams, so this job plan is definitely timely. And even if the winter weather will cut into construction, there's still next Spring.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Uh you can't even start on construction with winter coming up, because you probably will have to tear stuff up and start over.

Spring is a horrible time to do construction due to the fact with spring comes a lot of raining, snowmelt, etc.


Then Summer!
But seriously, I'm sure there are still plenty of jobs that can be done, even in winter.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I thought these jobs were supposed to start tomorrow? Not maybe sometime next year.

Kraichgauer, you're incredibly naive and gullible.


I could say the same for you, since you buy into everything Fox, Beck, and Limbaugh spout from their rectums.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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11 Sep 2011, 1:05 am

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Until I know what's in it, and how they will pay for it, I'm opposing all of it.

It consists primarily of tax cuts. I thought conservatives loved tax cuts?


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11 Sep 2011, 1:11 am

Orwell wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Until I know what's in it, and how they will pay for it, I'm opposing all of it.

It consists primarily of tax cuts. I thought conservatives loved tax cuts?


Oh, they do - for the rich.

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11 Sep 2011, 4:41 am

Orwell wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Until I know what's in it, and how they will pay for it, I'm opposing all of it.

It consists primarily of tax cuts. I thought conservatives loved tax cuts?


Tax cuts do not pay for anything. All things are payed for out of tax revenues, fees and imposts.

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11 Sep 2011, 3:18 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Until I know what's in it, and how they will pay for it, I'm opposing all of it.

It consists primarily of tax cuts. I thought conservatives loved tax cuts?


Tax cuts do not pay for anything. All things are payed for out of tax revenues, fees and imposts.

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That was my answer to "what's in it?" As for how it is paid for, Obama specified that in his speech as well. There would be spending cuts, scaling-back of regulations, and an increase in how much the "super-committee" is obligated to cut in their plan. But conservatives have never cared how tax cuts would be paid for.


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