WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON THE DEATH PENALTY?

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26 Sep 2011, 2:48 pm

I believe that if you committed a crime you should serve the time. I believe that the best punishment for criminals is to let them suffer in prison for the rest of their life. I feel that is better to wake up everyday realizing that you need to live with the fact you committed a crime. In your cell it gives you time to reflect on your crime. I like that inmates are told when to get up, what to eat and can get into trouble in prison for doing a crime while in prison. If you use the death penalty it is inhumane and in a way it is just as bad as what the inmate did. That is my personal view on the death penalty.



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26 Sep 2011, 3:03 pm

i agree.

the death penalty doesn't work as a deterrent. (based on a study of the murder rate showing murders increasing after an execution, suveys of serial killers, and a survey of expert criminologists.)

it's administered in a racist manner.

there but for the grace of god go i - given the right set of circumstances, anyone would murder, so shouldn't we all be executed if one should?

and worst of all, innocent people are sometimes condemned (recently troy davis). the death penalty is permanent. we can't undo it once someone is proved innocent



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26 Sep 2011, 3:51 pm

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26 Sep 2011, 4:08 pm

Executions seem like they should only be used as an emergency tool during times of War. For instance if someone is captured as a saboteur or traitor during time of war I can see having them executed.

During normal peace time though such an extreme punishment doesn't seem to have much of a place. I don't think it's a deterrent and it doesn't seem right to pass on the grim duty of executioner onto another citizen who now has blood on their hands. Finally of course I prefer not to take the chance of an innocent person being executed.



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26 Sep 2011, 4:15 pm

I'm utterly against it. I have never believed vengeance was a virtue. I don't really even support life in prison unless the person is highly dangerous and impossible to reform.



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26 Sep 2011, 4:33 pm

I have mixed feelings about the death sentance, I hold the view that most murder cases do not warrent it. But in some dire cases of extreme depravity then I think it should be allowed. Thankfully very few people reach the level of depravity which would justify it, one of the rare criminals who I think quite rightly got the death sentance was the red ripper in the USSR. Andrei Chikatilo was a pedophilic school teacher who was sacked messing with school kids, he then went from bad to worse. He then murdered and cut up over 50 children and young women, in the end the vile monster was arrested, put of trial and finally shot in the head.

I also do think that unless a person is willing to carry out a death sentance then they should not be pro-death sentance, I hold the view that unless you would be willing to shoot the likes of Chikatilo, electrocute Ted Bundy or hang one of the moors murderers then you should speak out and ask for the death sentance to be used.


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26 Sep 2011, 4:39 pm

Woodpecker wrote:
I also do think that unless a person is willing to carry out a death sentance then they should not be pro-death sentance, I hold the view that unless you would be willing to shoot the likes of Chikatilo, electrocute Ted Bundy or hang one of the moors murderers then you should speak out and ask for the death sentance to be used.


Could you do it? If the monster was crying and begging for his life?



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26 Sep 2011, 6:15 pm

to the person who said housing folks in prison is a waste of money, i would like them to know that administering the death penalty is more expensive than housing someone for life in prison. even if it weren't more expensive, it's worth lots of money not to have blood on our hands.



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26 Sep 2011, 6:25 pm

Moderator: Shouldn't this be in PPR?



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26 Sep 2011, 6:25 pm

cathylynn wrote:
to the person who said housing folks in prison is a waste of money, i would like them to know that administering the death penalty is more expensive than housing someone for life in prison. even if it weren't more expensive, it's worth lots of money not to have blood on our hands.


Yup. And compared to the wars we are fighting, it's a drop in the bucket.



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26 Sep 2011, 6:47 pm

"Where's the beef?"

That's one of the things I saw on signs carried by people waiting by the prison for news of Ted Bundy's execution. Ted Bundy tried bargaining for more time, so of course you can be sure that additional prison time is preferred over execution, by at least some of the prisoners.

The only real problem I see with the death penalty is its irreversibility after it's carried out. If someone is imprisoned, he can be let out if he's found to be innocent later.


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26 Sep 2011, 10:34 pm

Death penalty doesn't stop anyone from doing anything. Criminals have flaws in their personality that will not change just because the penalty for what they do is death. They would kill anyway, it's due to a flaw.

The important aspect is what does the death penalty do to the community and the psyches of the people who administer it? Is it good for us as a society to engage the blood lust? Doesn't that make those who want to see the criminal murdered just as bad as the criminal who murders? I argue that the death penalty does more harm to the community as a whole than it does good. It would be better to limit criminal's access to the media and create prisons just for capital offenders and make those prisons harsher with less funding than other prisons and let them stay there the rest of their lives.
A lot the time victims of crime say the access the criminal has to journalists is why they want them executed.



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26 Sep 2011, 11:32 pm

I say, if someone murders, execute them.No executed offender over reoffended.



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27 Sep 2011, 1:52 am

I think we don't use the death penalty nearly enough, or for enough variety of crimes. I do believe that we need to keep an even stricter standard of evidence to execute someone though.


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27 Sep 2011, 2:02 am

I'm against it on the grounds that I don't trust the state to do it right. Its not the killing part I have a problem with, its the incompetence and lack of consistency.


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27 Sep 2011, 8:28 am

I am against the death penalty on philosophical grounds.
I believe the state-sanctioned killing of any person shows that our society does not respect the sanctity of human life. It shows that we do not abhor murder in all circumstances, and that is a view that lessens the value of all human life, including that of the criminal's victim.


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