Autistic sperm donor lies about his health - Dutch News

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The "refrigerator mother" theory has been debunked. Really low functioning kids either show something is not right early on, and others develop somewhat normally and then regress for reasons unknown. These parents are very involved with their kids more than their kids are with them. Their mental stimulation is not neglected, sometimes their development is just severely lagging, and sometimes those kids just aren't there mentally. Their parents tend to shower them with attention all their lives even if they have little expectation to get them to reciprocate any of it at all.

Lots of googling hasn't turned up any mention of how - or whether - this dude even knew he was on the spectrum, except for the word "lied". Which may or may not accurately describe the situation.

Hardly anybody ever wins a Nobel prize. Lots of people have great technical skills of one sort or another and use them for the benefit of society without ever even coming close to getting a Nobel Prize for it. Not a fair comparison at all.

While there may not be any (conclusive) scientific research/data on the subject, just have a read of the posts in this forum...
How many posts are on here about people who have autism kids, who themselves (or their partner/spouse) are on the spectrum... Compare that to 3-4 per 10,000 in the general population; you don't need to be Einstein to see a pattern here. Anything else is denial.

Another good question: what if you don't have an actual diagnosis but you're sure beyond a reasonable doubt that you have it... are you required to disclose it?

No one can force you to disclose, can they?
Penalties work in retrospect.

Not disclosing something like this is unethical, and no different from having AIDS and having unprotected sex with others.

The fact this guy has father 20 kids, I would say he is a predator.

Uh I think they got his sperm from a sperm bank, I don't think he actually went to bed with any of the women and had sexual intercourse with them.

Also this is entirely different from AIDS, because you can have a perfectly normal life and be on the spectrum, there are some positive things about being on the spectrum.

According to the article, he met all these people online and had sex with them as an agreement to make them pregnant informally and without the cooperation of any type of fertility agency.

There is a big difference between CAN and WILL. Do you think, in general, that people with AS as successful and have as happy and satisfied lives as NTs?

Do you believe people would want to have kids with AS or for that matter any other kind of disorder?
People on here say they are happy and love their kids regardless of whether they have AS or not. Of course they do, but would any parent want their kids to have ANY sort of disadvantage in life whatsoever??

Agreed, I do see a case study in the making and while I'm sure there are ways that it can be environmentally triggered I'm really thinking its quite rare/esoteric as compared to the number of cases that are genetic (you'd figure as well that, mild cases triggered environmentally would literally dissolve as the genes had decades to work against that change).

That and - no one lynch me for saying it - I'd get the feeling that high functioning autism meeting NT would mean slightly more dilluted traits. It was incredibly dishonest of this guy to lie about his health, obviously if donations can net you $500-$600 per shot (no pun intented) I get why this guy did it - financial motivation is big. *Hopefully*, for the sake of these moms, the AS their kids have will be relatively mild across the board.

Look, we aren't diseased, we're people that may have a different way of viewing the world. We are not inferior to NT's, and people need to start waking up to that fact.

John_Browning already summed it up.

If you don't believe AS in any way hinders life (in general), you are in denial.

If autism is hereditary, it doesn't mean that all autistic parents are in danger of having LFA kids. The danger of having a HFA or even an NT is just as large or even bigger. What a disaster that would be....

Wow that's cool that someone would be heartbroken because they have a child that happens to have AS, its just not as good as a normal baby is it? They sure they aren't looking for autism symptoms that aren't there......but yeah this sounds pretty stupid, there is no direct genetic link to AS or regular autism.

There is little question that it is hereditary . In what way is the question . It is not just having a single gene that causes autism but a multitude of different genetic factors. Narrowing down the difference between lower functioning autism and higher functioning autism is a far more relevant goal and are any other contributing factors leading to one or the other. Or simply what causes one autistic person to be totally dependent on care and others to be totally independent.

Do neurotypical people have to disclose their condition before they are allowed to donate sperm?