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JadedMantis
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19 May 2009, 5:09 am

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Is elephant edible?

Apparently it is. There has been a rumour that Zimbabwe has been feeding their troops with Elephant of late instead of beef, but I am not sure how true this is. They are our neighbours and we are used to hearing a lot of things going on there.

Personally I don't even consider cattle edible.

In any case, as far as I know Zimbabwe is the only country allowed to export hunting trophies so I guess she would have had the tusks shipped to the states.

Often times the meat from kills by trophy hunts get distributed to the local village as part of a resource sharing agreement as an attemot to reduce poaching as the community benefits unlike in the past where they would be starving next to the park while rich hunters get to come shoot animals. This is what is done with many other animals hunted in Southern Africa.

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19 May 2009, 9:09 pm

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In any case, as far as I know Zimbabwe is the only country allowed to export hunting trophies so I guess she would have had the tusks shipped to the states.

I hope she did do that, though unfortunately, I would be quite far away to see her reaction as they were confiscated as contraband items by US Customs, and recieve a very substantial fine. --It has been illegal to import any amount of elephant ivory into the US for at least 25 years.

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21 May 2009, 11:59 am

I don't understand how anyone could be in favour of killing such an intelligent animal. If you believe it's okay to kill elephants, then why not humans?

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21 May 2009, 7:05 pm

Did she shoot it in her pajamas? If so, then how did it get into her pajamas?

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21 May 2009, 7:34 pm

It's like Denis Leary said, we only get mad when the cute and interesting animals get killed, nobody cares about the ugly ones. Like when people complain about the use of tuna nets because dolphins can get caught in them, yea, what about the tuna? Are they not animals too?

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21 May 2009, 8:18 pm

I cannot ever condone hunting something so large with a bow. It is simply not ethical. Elephants ARE overpopulated in many areas, and they overrun villages and kill people. They need to be culled, but bowhunting is not a proper way to do it.

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21 May 2009, 8:24 pm

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Why does size make a difference? How is killing an elephant with a bow any less ethical than killing a squirrel with a bow?

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21 May 2009, 10:00 pm

I can see the concern about downing an elephant with a bow being inhumane, but I don't see it as any less humane than how they are killed by their natural predators. I'm surprised and impressed that the lady got it in one shot, the other big game bow hunter that I'm aware of took 5 arrows for his elephant, and at least 2-4 for every other animal that he took (he was going for the big 5). Contrary to popular belief, it doesn't take a giant weapon to dispatch big game, Karamojo Bell took over 3,000 elephants in his career as a professional hunter and culler, most with a 7mm Rigby, though he was a master of the brain shot on elephants. I've heard of it being done with a .22LR with perfect shot placement, though I wouldn't call that advisable by any means. Most countries have a minimum caliber for big game, usually the .375 Holland & Holland, both for the safety of the hunter and the humaneness of the kill.

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21 May 2009, 10:30 pm

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The size of the gun doesn't determine the deadliness, it's a ratio between firepower and the skill of the shooter. A BB gun could still be fatal if used point blank into the eye.

Once while at a friend's house, 2 Meth-heads broke in to try and take money, they were armed with 8' Pine 2x4s. We fought them off with a co2 pellet gun and an electric staple gun, what makes the difference is how far you are away from the target and where you hit. In this instance nobody died, but the 2 guys were in no condition to fight back after we were done with them.

This reminds me of something I read a while ago about Stun guns in London in the early 90's. Gangs were using stun guns to fight each other, so they passed a law illegalizing stun guns, so the gangs went back to using knives.

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21 May 2009, 11:31 pm

normally_impaired wrote:

WardenWolf wrote:

Why does size make a difference? How is killing an elephant with a bow any less ethical than killing a squirrel with a bow?

It's about making a clean, humane kill, and ensuring you actually kill what you hit, instead of just wounding it. Elephants don't go down easily. Even a powerful rifle would require a very precise hit to quickly take down an elephant. A bow is neither as precise nor as powerful as the large-caliber big game rifles designed for this type of hunt, resulting, invariably, in the animal bleeding out or suffocating over a long period if time instead of a quick death. Bow hunting is fine up to bear size; I've seen videos of bear and deer dropped instantly with a well-placed arrow. It's not appropriate for an elephant. She may have done it with one arrow, but that animal took a long time to die.

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27 May 2009, 6:17 am

Have you seen the bow!
PSE XF Bow link too

Wish I could find one of these in Mount and Blade.

Its not like the bows we made from a garden cane and a piece of sting when we where kids.

Surprised the Elephant lasted as long as it did.

When is a bow and arrow no longer a bow and arrow?

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27 May 2009, 6:36 am

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Wow, it's like someone training to become a blackbelt so they can kick puppies. Way to apply that talent and skill!

Great analogy.

A good book, about the sentience of animals, if anyone is interested... "when elephants weep." Do a google, it's well worth a read. Elephants mourn their dead, and return on anniversaries to the bones of their loved ones. They comfort the bereaved.

This woman was obviously ignorant of the nature of the beast she set out to kill.

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27 May 2009, 5:32 pm

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This woman was obviously ignorant of the nature of the beast she set out to kill.

I wish that were true, but it's more likely that she just didn't care. People in general usually have delusional beliefs that there own perception is the only way of percieving the world, and anything that differs from the normal is "dumb". You could try and educate her, but i imagine she'd throw out all the arguements using that same delusional belief.

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28 May 2009, 7:22 am

hunting is always a moral dilemma, as with capital punishment. i see no problem with both.

anyways, that bow is friggin amazing.

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11 Aug 2012, 7:11 am

But why she finally did that??? Not for food. Not for defending her self. But for a stupid bet??? She killed to recieve congrats and become little famous ??? She couldnt find anything alse to make others and herself feel proud of her ??? Did she had to kill an elephant to proove herself ??? Well that's just crazy ! !

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11 Aug 2012, 7:34 am

Good necropost!

Anyway, after the hunt, the local tribes get the meat.

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