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11 Aug 2012, 9:06 am

John_Browning wrote:

Anyway, after the hunt, the local tribes get the meat.

If they do then it's not quite as bad. At least it wasn't just wasted.

I figured they were edible. In the Clan of the Cave Bear books they ate mammoths.

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12 Aug 2012, 6:16 pm

She did not check UNTIL THE NEXT DAY that the animal was dead?

How long did it have to suffer until Death's mercy?

What a pity if she comes back as a bow hunter's prey....
repeatedly......? :roll:

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12 Aug 2012, 7:16 pm

hanyo wrote:

John_Browning wrote:

Anyway, after the hunt, the local tribes get the meat.

If they do then it's not quite as bad. At least it wasn't just wasted.

I figured they were edible. In the Clan of the Cave Bear books they ate mammoths.

And yet, the mammoths became extinct from over hunting by both archaic and modern humans.

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12 Aug 2012, 8:15 pm

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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22 Aug 2012, 12:05 am

She can't even eat it... What a meathead. People who kill for the thrill alone are lowly creatures.

Edit: If she did kill it, and give the meat to a tribe that's a little better, but of all animals to kill she had to kill an elephant... Because of a dumb bet.

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22 Aug 2012, 1:03 am

*wonders how this thread got bumped*
Relating to the topic, I think it's stupid that she didn't check until the next day. At least see check it after the shot to see if it's alive and doesn't needlessly suffer. Regardless if death was instant or not, I still strongly disprove of this whole thing.

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22 Aug 2012, 1:39 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

hanyo wrote:

John_Browning wrote:

Anyway, after the hunt, the local tribes get the meat.

If they do then it's not quite as bad. At least it wasn't just wasted.

I figured they were edible. In the Clan of the Cave Bear books they ate mammoths.

And yet, the mammoths became extinct from over hunting by both archaic and modern humans.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Mammoths were big enough to support a fairly substantial piece of the local ecosystem when they died. It is the biggest reason the Condor is going extinct- the megafauna died off as a result of the climate change when the ice age ended. With the size of the human population, using spears, atlatls, and bows, and a limited capacity to carry away meat, not only would it have been hard to hunt mammoths to extinction, but humans in North America were unusually good conservationists.

If they had horse-drawn wagons, Sharps rifles, and a financial incentive to harvest more hides than they could ever use in a lifetime, I might agree with you.

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22 Aug 2012, 1:52 am

she killed it just to kill it? she didn't even harvest anything from it? she just let the damned thing rot in place? what a world. :roll:

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22 Aug 2012, 1:53 am

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She did not check UNTIL THE NEXT DAY that the animal was dead?

Yeah. Supposedly, it's dangerous to go and check up on an animal that you put an arrow through; said animal might want to stomp you into the ground.

Which I think should be a risk people take when hunting, for ethical reasons (making sure the animal isn't suffering), and also sporting, i.e., a chance of getting killed when you take another life (seems fair there).

Said elephant won't even know where the arrow came from with baseline stalking.

If it's anything, I'm sure said elephant died quickly if it was a heart/lung hit. Arrows work as well as anything else out there [that's not covered in steel].

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22 Aug 2012, 1:56 am

John_Browning wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

hanyo wrote:

John_Browning wrote:

Anyway, after the hunt, the local tribes get the meat.

If they do then it's not quite as bad. At least it wasn't just wasted.

I figured they were edible. In the Clan of the Cave Bear books they ate mammoths.

And yet, the mammoths became extinct from over hunting by both archaic and modern humans.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Well, then your argument is with anthropologists and archaeologists who are under the opinion that the mammoth had gone extinct due to human predation.

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10 Sep 2012, 4:58 am

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Wow, it's like someone training to become a blackbelt so they can kick puppies.

Good analogy. Except that, y'know, puppies are cute but fairly stupid while elephants *seem* near sentient. The concept of hunting them is particularly repugnant.

becoming a blackbelt to kick them really isn't bad at all because it is a little known fact that they are part of a conspiracy orchestrated by the vengeful spirits of emperor Nero, Lapu-Lapu, and Sigmund Frued to drive me into a deep, demented, violent rampage brought on by my inability to cope with the incessant noises that they make.

Now becoming a black belt to kick kittens, that's appalling.

I would say that most, if not all mammals are probably sentient, but not all are sapient. However, while zoologists may be reluctant to say elephants are sapient, I'm certainly impressed the the intelligence and emotional complexity of the species and would not think it far-fetched to say they have a near human level of mental complexity. Thus killing an elephant is too close to killing a human for my comforts.

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10 Sep 2012, 7:58 pm

This is sickening. I don't see elephants betting on if they could kill something like that, do I? No. And she just let it sit there while she probably went to party with someone to celebrate such an [sarcasm]amazing[/sarcasm] deed. Was this elephant female? What if it had offspring? I know it was in a herd, but still.

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10 Sep 2012, 11:24 pm

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i wouldn't put offing big-game humans "for sport" past her.

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11 Sep 2012, 4:37 am

auntblabby wrote:

i wouldn't put offing big-game humans "for sport" past her.

I still say there's a missed business opportunity there; plenty of people need killing, and some people will pay to do it. It's the next wave, private military arbitrage. :wink:

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11 Sep 2012, 6:08 am

Dox47 wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

i wouldn't put offing big-game humans "for sport" past her.

I still say there's a missed business opportunity there; plenty of people need killing, and some people will pay to do it. It's the next wave, private military arbitrage. :wink:

Reminds me of Roland the headless thomson gunner.

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11 Sep 2012, 6:54 am

This thread got me thinking... I wonder what elephant tastes like

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