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29 Oct 2012, 1:37 am

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oh yeah everyone gets chipped march 22 too,


Is that just prior to everyone being tossed into a deep fat fryer then rolled around in salt n vinegar?


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29 Oct 2012, 11:28 am

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oh yeah everyone gets chipped march 22 too,


Is that just prior to everyone being tossed into a deep fat fryer then rolled around in salt n vinegar?


if that's your version of hell, sure.



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29 Oct 2012, 7:29 pm

They should be looking at that guy in Iran....

You know the one that the Ayatollah's are using as a puppet...



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31 Oct 2012, 4:21 am

johansen wrote:
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oh yeah everyone gets chipped march 22 too,


Is that just prior to everyone being tossed into a deep fat fryer then rolled around in salt n vinegar?


if that's your version of hell, sure.


No.

Everyone will be saturated with cream and served on toast after being turned into chipped beef.



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07 Nov 2012, 11:43 pm

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And you know something - there are right wing religious cretins in this country who honestly believe this. :roll:

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I'm a right-wing, practicing Roman Catholic who doesn't appreciate being called a cretin.



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08 Nov 2012, 12:59 am

These are probably two of the most anti-Obama people you'll ever see, and they don't seem to buy into it...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyifSg5RtXw[/youtube]



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08 Nov 2012, 1:33 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:
And you know something - there are right wing religious cretins in this country who honestly believe this. :roll:

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I'm a right-wing, practicing Roman Catholic who doesn't appreciate being called a cretin.


Well, I think the cretin charge can be made against people who think Obama is the Anti-Christ - and those types are almost, if not entirely, right wing.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Nov 2012, 8:29 am

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Obama fulfils the signs that you want to see.

That's about it. The signs that you WANT to see he fulfils. He doesn't fulfill the signs that are in the Bible.

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the ones you don't want to see, like the fact that he's a gay Muslim, you don't want to see.


Where in the Bible does it state that the antiChrist is gay or Muslim?

What reason do you have to believe the President is either?

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or the fact that he is the 72 IMAM who will unite the Muslim world into attacking the nation of Israel.


Where in the Bible do you find this?

What the heck is "72 IMAM"?

According to what definition are predictions of future a fact?

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"the man of sin be revealed" sin is a mis translation of the original text which was a symbol, not a word. turn it on its side and its the muslim headpiece.


Paul's letters were written in Greek, and the original text reads: ὁ ἄνθρωπος τῆς ἀνομίας.
The "sin" part here is ἀνομίας - that is, a word, not a symbol, and it means "lawlessness".

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The mark of the beast is the offer of man, it is interest, it is trusting in man, not God.
It is paying taxes to an illegitimate government.


Isn't it nice that you are paying taxes to a fully legitimate government then.
Besides, Jesus told you to pay taxes AND to give everything you have to the poor.

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oh wait, what was the mark of the beast?
let me help you, the mark of the beast is man's desires.


"the mark of the beast is trusting in man, man's desires"... that kind of expands the time frame to... the history of mankind.



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08 Nov 2012, 8:35 am

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not knowing the day or the hour refers to the fact that you have to stay up all night to watch a lunar eclipse so you figure out what the time is exactly.


Er... Anything is possible. I interpret it to mean that because you can't know when, you better be prepared 24/7.

And how do you prepare?
Not by spreading rumors and speaking ill of others. Not by minding the mote in your brother's eye and ignoring the beam in your own.

Not by being a "...whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful..."

You see - the Bible deems "whisperers and backbiters" just as bad as people "without natural affection".
Whisperers are those who speak ill of people in secrecy, backbiters those who do it openly. And it has nothing to do whether you believe this ill you speak is true or not.

"The acts of the flesh are obvious... ...hatred, discord... ...dissensions, factions"
You just keep repeating things like "sexual immorality" and "idolatry", but you keep forgetting that hatred, discord, dissensions and factions are just as bad.

In the end it's totally irrelevant if Obama is the antichrist or not, if he's Muslim, if he's gay, if he's Communist, or alien or a lizard person or what ever you want to believe.
Because it has never been about Obama.
It has always been about you. YOU need to take care, YOU need to heed, YOU need to mind YOUR salvation.


"And why call you me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?"

"Not every one that said to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity."



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08 Nov 2012, 8:42 am

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it is not an accident that Israel's entire history fits the lunar tetrad's to the day.

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Israel's history fits the lunar tetrads to the day, all the way back as far as we know.


You base this claim to http://www.bibledefended.com/prophetical/tetrad.htm

Hmm... What's the significance of the 1909-1910 tetrad? Or 1985-1986 tetrad? Or 2003-2004 tetrad?

Why is the 6 day war tetrad happening DURING the 6 day war, but the tetrad that marks the birth of new Israel almost a year "late"? How is that "to the day"?

Why aren't other significant happenings in the Jewish history/Israel's history marked with tetrads?

The history of the Jews and Israel and the lunar tetrads are rather well-known facts. You can't just take bits and bobs and mix them to "prove" any "signs you want to see", and then dismiss all the rest of the same facts as irrelevant or "the non-believers efforts to lure you" or something similar.



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08 Nov 2012, 8:50 am

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lol, what did you think the guillotines in the FEMA camps were for? for all those conspiracy theorists who won't worship the NWO.

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...because they find out FEMA camps really do exist.


LOL?

Sounds interesting. What kind of information do you have about this? All I could find was hearsays and stories.

Nevertheless, wouldn't it be good for you, if they are going to start beheading the Christians in USA? Not only will you become a martyr but you will have proven to be right?
And how long do I need to wait until you admit being wrong and spreading headless stories harming other people's reputation and spreading fear and panic and distrust among the population, and apologizing for the unjust and untrue accusations? Will 22nd of March be a good date for you?

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some of the claims i have made i cannot explain until they are found to be untrue, for the protection of those involved.


You cannot explain your claims until they are found to be untrue?

Why are you protecting the ones involved in creating camps with guillotines to kill every Christian in USA?



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08 Nov 2012, 8:55 am

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"Oh, I've had plenty of spiritual experiences, which later turned out to have ordinary physical causes. "

well, that explains everything, because there was nothing there in the first place.


That's kind of the point. There never is. Every "spiritual experience" has a non-spiritual cause.



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08 Nov 2012, 8:57 am

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my Jewish friend says his name doesn't mean lightning from heaven, but i think he was lying to me, because he doesn't want to believe anything i have to say...


He isn't lying. President Obama's name doesn't mean "lightning from heaven". It's easy to check. You have the internet.

There are reasons to why he "doesn't want to believe" anything you have to say. I'm sorry to say most people don't.



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08 Nov 2012, 9:05 am

johansen wrote:
so you might have 2 weeks to buy a water filter and a sack of rice, but that's not going to help you when UN troops are called in to restore order, just as Kissinger said you'd like it, back in 1991.


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lol, btw my local congressmen wokeup up to UN agenda 21. conspiracy theory to fact in only 60 years....

I keep reading this sentence over and over and it just doesn't make any sense. Could someone translate it to me?

"UN agenda 21 conspiracy"? Oh, dear...

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time to go dust off that copy of Protocols and the report from iron mountain again..


I would also like to know if you by "Protocols" refer to the Protocols of Elders of Zion, and after that I would like you to share with us what is your opinion of these two scriptures... because I really cannot even guess. You could just as well believe they are truthful protocols of real meetings as not.

Also - what do you mean with "time to go dust off..." Concession to the insanity theory? Or reference to where you got your ideas?



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08 Nov 2012, 9:07 am

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a married Christian man with two daughters


ROFLMAO.


So which one of those facts don't you accept? That the President is married? That he's a Christian? Or that he has two daughters? Because all those points can be easily proven.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

lol we can't even agree on what is proof on this forum

i'll take the conspiracy theory that he's a clone of akinakan, and so are his kids.


Ok, let's ignore the quality of the proof.

Just tell us what is it that tells you that Barak Obama is not married, Christian, man and with two daughters.

Or, as you said "his kids", I assume you think he does have two daughters. Or perhaps you question the number of the daughters, because "numerical calculations are convenient", or that they are girls.

I'm sincerely very interested.

Then you can tell us the point of questioning this data.

And WTF is "akinakan"?



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08 Nov 2012, 9:12 am

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the numerical calculations are convenient, they are not proof,

oh...

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there is never any "proof" in the eyes of the blind until the day the sun rises in the west...


As said, "you see proof of what you want to see".

johansen wrote:
the significance of the 3.x year plus 231 years is that 3.5 years is half of the tribulation, 1260 days, and 231 years is the length of a bactun on the myan calender.


One always gets interesting results when mixing concepts from two (and more) different cultures.

The length of Mayan baktun is not 231 years, but 394 1/4 years, and 3,5 years is about 1278 days. What did you do with the 18 days?

Oh, I forgot. The numerical calculations are irrelevant.