NOT GOOD, Connecticut shooter was diagnosed with Aspergers..

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Saying that the Connecticut shooter did it because he had Asperger's is like saying the Virginia Tech guy did it because he was Korean. It just doesn't make any sense. I hate how the media is emphasizing the Asperger's possibility.

Dear indiana, the quote in my signature line is not of my own creation however, I chose it since it relates to my belief system regarding the entire autistic spectrum and the inhabitants as such if this makes any sense?[/quote]

Dear Professor X, it makes complete sense - that's why I like it so much. If someone gets sniffy about AS when I'm around I'll quote it to them.

That is a description of me as a child/teenager too. Up through sixth grade I only had 1 friend who ditched me during sixth grade and after that I usually had no friends in school and just 2 older friends that were sisters and didn't have problems hanging out with weird people. Right now I have no friends in real life that even live in the same state as me.

Like I said in my last post, there's the quirky kind of strange and then there's the creepy kind of strange.
The "quirky" kind of strange is the harmless/mild-mannered, quiet person with no violent tendencies whereas the "creepy" kind of strange is that person who draws pictures of classmates being tortured and killed (Jeff Wiese was most known for this, as was Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold), makes threats (either in personal writings or in a fashion that would be known to others), is highly withdrawn (often combined with violent tendencies and goes beyond the "quiet kid" description) and fantasizes about death and killing/torture. These individuals often experience a "masculinity challenge" and other stressors at some point in their lives. Peers who knew so-called spree killers usually add to the "strange" description the terms "scary/creepy" and/or "crazy," words that conveys a meaning that the individual to whom the terms are applied was far more than just unusual or quirky. I think it's safe to say the vast majority (as I cannot say "all") WP users fit into the "quirky" strange category (I know someone will be bound to take offense at the categorization).

Based on the information dessiminated regarding the autopsy results of his mother, Lanza shot her four times in the face. That is far more typical of those who are acting on rage, not on pity. That says that the perpetrator wanted to settle the score or confront the object of his rage face to face. If he shot her once in the back of the head or even in the temple, it would be easier to argue that the killer wanted to spare her of the embarrassment of his legacy (think Charles Whitman). Of course there is no proof either way, but extrapolating data from hundreds of other cases and drawing on recent information on this specific case, I would have to say it's pointing in the direction of rage, not mercy, that steered his mind into this course of action.

But that's my point : unless she or any other person who says he was "strange" or whatever doesn't give more than a "I just got a feeling" and the kind of usual things they've said, we can't say that.
I won't say your description of the difference between quirkiness and creepiness is really wrong. But we can consider that knowing what Lanza did makes these people reconsider what they felt before : it's a possibility. What makes me feel uneasy is that in all the reports I've read, the titles spoke of a "very troubled/disturbed boy" (well before he did these murders), while the description that was given, and the comments from those who had spent their school years with him, evoked to me things that can be quite "normal" in AS or in other "conditions" - schizoid personality, for example (which is not a disorder per se in my opinion, but can become one when the "symptoms" deteriorate).

Of course, I'm not really informed about this matter and you may have info that I don't know, but as you say "makes you wonder what he did to her" -> we don't know. If he had done harm, we would, and they would have said that. If he was drawing horrible things or was menacing others during these years, I think the depictions we would have of him by his ex comrades would be pretty different. They speak of strangeness, after all, not of these things that have been described above ; and, without having more elements, I don't think I can say more. Put the most normal person you can conceive in front of someone who has differences in his mental functioning and organization that lead to a different behavior, and given the "intensity" of the difference, the normal guy will promptly go from "quirky" to "strange" or beyond in his characterization of the other.

I'm speaking in a general sense. And if I do that, it's because the danger lies here. It's not really in the "I must hide the fact that I have AS" we can see over here - OK, it can be a concern if the people surrounding you are uneducated and prejudiced guys - but in the "hey, each time another horrible rampage of death of destruction of that kind comes to be because of someone who was "different" his whole life, people tend to ascribe to the manifestations of similar behaviors in others a link with possible atrocity. And it's an easy thing to do, notably because people have a natural proclivity to suspect abnormal behaviors and to feel in some way threatened by them (grosso modo). Many people can be concerned by that : AS, schizoid, very introvert persons... And of course those whose condition can, conversely, be linked more directly to potential danger - but people have, for example, not an adequate view of psychopathy or conditions of that kind. And there is a great deal of difference between potential danger (if... if...) and harm done.

I personally feel like that this psychologist is generalizing an entire autistic population because of the actions of one little boy, can't call the shooter a man because he isn't one. No man would kill little kids and other people.

The media continues to call Adam Lanza's Asperger Syndrome a "mental illness." I have prepared a video about this on my youtube which will be uploaded in about 45 minutes. This is inexcusable and not a SINGLE professional interviewed has yet corrected these ignorant reporters.

I have prepared a video which I am just about finished uploading. It identifies the SOURCE of these wild and crazy stories about Adam Lanza as NONE OTHER than the same LIAR who told News that Adam's mother was a "kindergarten teacher" at Sandy Hook. More to follow.

Well it's a mental disorder according to DSMIV and remains a mental disorder in DSMV (subsumed under ASD).
Aspergers advocates have been fighting for years to have their condition referred to as a nueral difference rather than a disorder. The problem is that people with AS have sensory overload and other symptoms that lead to illness and inability ot function. That does make AS a mental illness in that context.

Does the USA media still go on often about having Aspergers and killing sprees? If so what media agencys, fox news? I have not herd anything of the like in Canada since a few hours after the shooting, we herd far more about the Alabama hostage's AS then anything. I don't watch Fox/Sun news or listen to conservitive talk radio though. Maybe you all should come live here.

Well, by their OWN definitions it is not a "disorder" nor is it an "illness" or disease.

1.A mental disorder is a change in an individual’s way of thinking and feeling that impedes his ability to perform his day-to-day activities.


A disorder or illness is what befalls an OTHERWISE HEALTHY PERSON, who suddenly and quite inexplicably can NO LONGER FUNCTION! Mental Illness and disorders fall upon "NORMAL" people and can be "developed" long after the person is GROWN!

An Asperger's person (and autism for that matter) cannot be "developed" by a "healthy" mind! You are either BORN with it or not! It therefore CANNOT FALL UNDER THE DEFINITION as THEY THEMSELVES HAVE DEFINED IT. So, they are LYING!

Plain and simple, they are lying.

It doesn't matter he was autistic, the problem was the pressure he was probably put under and reacted to, which could include anyone.

I think you are 'splitting hairs', the fact is people are born with autism and despite developing coping mechanism are faced with periods in their lives where they will be unable to function. Of course this does nto apply to everyone, but mental illness impacts on most of us.

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Now they looking into the video games he played.

Why do they have to keep saying he had Aspergers but was likely not a factor over and over? What happened to his personallity disorder? That likely had more to do with it then anything. If they arn't going to report the whole story just leave it alone. First i've herd on this in some time however still disturbing. And what kids these days don't play $1000's of video games.