Database of Mentally Ill + Armed Volunteers In Every School=

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Well, that pretty much invalidates your whole argument. Nice sig, btw.

I don't like the idea of databases for the "mentally ill". What's to stop autism from being on that black list? And it will, in effect, become a black list sooner or later.
It's not about science or logic but about mob rule every time someone alleged to be autistic and goes on a rampage.
f**k, why not just make people wear a color coded star on their outer garment?
People, how 'bout we don't flock to give the government ammo to use on US!

How prejudice. So suddenly because this one shooter has aspergers attached they want to create a blacklist. What about the other shooters? They were put on meds...anything to deter the fact that they most likely were affected by those meds and made them violent.

Ah, but what 26 developed countries did they use?

I'll choose 26 developed (dictionary definition) countries; 13 highest and 13 lowest in regards to firearm ownership, and I'll see what I come up with. Choosing the 13 highest and 13 lowest will show an unbiased picture regarding the data (no cherry picking).

As I showed in the other thread (where I chose from all countries, whether developed or not); there was an increase in homicide overall for the less firearms per person (often a vast increase).

Interesting to see what I'll find and if it's the same as "developed" and "under-" combined (personally, I think it's wrong to exclude undeveloped countries, as not all are cesspools of terrorism and religious extremism).

Will get back with my results when done.

Done

Countries chosen: top 24 developed, broken into two groups based on firearm ownership

Top 12 per firearm ownership per 100 people and murder rate per 100,000 per year:

Average firearms owned: 33.27
Average murder rate: 1.5

Bottom 12 per firearm ownership per 100 people and murder rate per 100,000 per year:

Average firearms owned: 8.2
Average murder rate: 1.23

Conclusion: firearms do nothing in regards to overall* homicide rate (well, that's being generous and not counting that for an extra 0.27 of a murder per year you increase the firearms ownership by a factor of 4). So, a 4 times increase in firearms equates to an increase of a 0.27 murder per year per 100,000

Limitations: I only did homicide rather than other violent crimes (assault and battery, for example). That's something I'll do at a later date.

*Saying that the homicide rate is higher due to a higher amount of murders involving firearms is dishonest. The homicide rate is from all means

(I'll also do a "mental illness" one too, though I know how that'll end up.)

Lol, the Harvard statistics don't need a second going through, it's quite clear the conclusion.
Haven't a clue why you wasted your time.

It is difficult, cost prohibitive, for the mentally ill to get all the help they need now.

A database of mentally ill people so you can restrict the rights of the people in it will only backfire. People who are mentally ill will become less likely to seek the help they need if they believe they are going to be punished instead of helped.

We have a dangerous culture. Violent games, music, movies, an abundance of weapons and schools where acts of violence, some big and some smaller, happen daily. This places all of us in danger and puts the blame on all of us. If all we do is lay blame on one group or another and we don't come together to look for solutions, we will never stop the senseless killings.

We need more awareness for autism so people understand what it is and what it isn't so we can appropriately diagnose those who are affected and so we can protect our basic rights. This means speaking up for ourselves.

I am praying for the families of Sandy Hook. I am autistic and I am deeply saddened by the events of this one disturbed individual.