North Koreans eat their children after food is confiscated

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30 Jan 2013, 1:34 pm

visagrunt wrote:

But with Northern Ireland there are three possibilities: Remaining in the United Kingdom, union with Eire or independence. As any Australian republican can tell you, questions with three possible solutions make for problematic referenda.

But I don't think Independence is on the cards for Northern Ireland, there is no third way, no public support, it's either a united Ireland or together with the UK.

The referendum could be the same as Scotland's with a 'no' vote meaning they would be independent, before another referendum to join with the republic of Ireland. Or there could be an understood agreement that a 'no' vote would effectively be joining the republic, saving the need for a second referendum and all powers simply switch from Westminster to Dublin.

Northern Ireland just isn't self-sustainable on it's own. Australia is.

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30 Jan 2013, 1:55 pm

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the leaders of north korea will have a lot of 'splainin' to do when they meet their maker.

I suspect they are not in the least bit concerned with that.

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30 Jan 2013, 2:05 pm

Not too suprising for North Korea, still horrible but It was already on my list of countries never to visit even if given the opportunity.

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30 Jan 2013, 2:42 pm

Everything wrong with North Korea described in a single picture...

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30 Jan 2013, 6:44 pm

^ Good picture.
Possibly tweaked to make the point stronger, but it still makes it rather well.

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31 Jan 2013, 2:04 am

Perhaps the queasiest news story I've read in a while. Makes me want to vomit. Those poor children, and of course the father that was driven to such a thing must be unimaginable.

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31 Jan 2013, 2:05 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

Not too suprising for North Korea, still horrible but It was already on my list of countries never to visit even if given the opportunity.

I've had Flickr contacts who have visited the country and they took lots of pictures and not all of them were authorised! To Western eyes, the 'DP'RK looks like another planet entirely.

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31 Jan 2013, 2:06 am

visagrunt wrote:

Remain in the United Kingdom, or become an independent state.

Otherwise known as: remain in the EU, or definitely join the EU.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:07 am

When the Korea's re-unify, that food shortage will be just a bad memory.
When the example of China's opened markets and engagement with the West is so close and so successful, it remains a mystery why the Korea's haven't got back together.
Is there anything on the Western side that can demonstrate an open door of opportunity to the regime in the North?

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03 Feb 2013, 12:13 pm

ripped wrote:

The late Chistopher Hitchens pointed out that the first Dear Leader is literally a god in N. Korea. He is worshipped and sanctified there.

see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8-Vr_r36Fg

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03 Feb 2013, 12:38 pm

ruveyn wrote:

The late Chistopher Hitchens pointed out that the first Dear Leader is literally a god in N. Korea. He is worshipped and sanctified there.

From the comments I've read from people who have actually been there suggest, many North Koreans have a vague inkling that something isn't right and there is an outside world out there, but they're so brainwashed/terrified of the overwhelmingly oppressive nature of their society that they can do nothing about it.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:48 pm

None of the sources for this story are named, it's hard to know what is really going on. Remember just recently there was an NYPD officer arrested because he planned to kidnap and eat women and children. It's possible this story is about a deranged, but not starving, man who killed his children.

Of course N Korea is no stranger to famine and human abuse but the problem is, the country is on such a tight information lockdown, we can only speculate.

Also, the picture above looks doctored to me.

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03 Feb 2013, 7:27 pm

ruveyn wrote:

ripped wrote:

The late Chistopher Hitchens pointed out that the first Dear Leader is literally a god in N. Korea. He is worshipped and sanctified there.

see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8-Vr_r36Fg

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfesQ5A0KYk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bmOugJb9no

The new leader doesn't act the same as the old one.
The youtube video at the start of January ( top link ) by the leader of North Korea specifically referenced re-unification.
If that doesn't single at least a willingness to consider the idea...
What can the West do to show the door is open?
I've got a few positive ideas, but this doesn't look like the forum to post them.

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03 Feb 2013, 8:46 pm

ruveyn wrote:

ripped wrote:

The late Chistopher Hitchens pointed out that the first Dear Leader is literally a god in N. Korea. He is worshipped and sanctified there.

see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8-Vr_r36Fg

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I saw this some time ago. The complete talk is a alot longer and also covers Iraq and Iran. When he says "I'm not going to mention Big Brother", he's referring to an earlier part where he says "I'm not going to mention Kafka"

We need Hitchens back

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03 Feb 2013, 11:03 pm

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That we do. I sorely miss him. Of the "four horsemen" he was the wittiest and brightest.

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14 Feb 2013, 10:19 am

trollcatman wrote:

On a historical note with regard to the reference of Big Brother:
George Orwell wrote 1984 from his experience of the aftermath of World War II under a government acrimoniously clinging to its wartime security powers, and from his knowledge of the mindset of the political executive.

In a country such as North Korea, where the clock has effectively stopped, it need not come as such a surprise to find that very thing there.
Similar could have been correctly said of East Germany before the fall of the Berlin Wall.

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