15 year old aspie put in "bad kid box"

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11 Jan 2013, 1:53 pm

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I fail to see how putting someone in a box saying they are bad is supposed to help them. How does that work?


I'm not sure it does work or if it causes more harm.

When I was in infant school (aged 5 - 7) I was often kicked out of class and made to stand on my own under the clock in the school hall for a few hours. The bizarre thing looking back is that I have absolutely no idea what I'd done wrong to be expelled in this manner. As far as I'm aware I wasn't a bad or disruptive kid, but apparently I must have been - somehow, but the teachers never explained what I was doing wrong, or if they did I didn't understand. Probably Asperger's related. The only thing I learned from the expulsions was to hate the ticking sound of that accursed clock and that some teachers didn't seem to like me.


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11 Jan 2013, 1:58 pm

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When I was in infant school (aged 5 - 7) I was often kicked out of class and made to stand on my own under the clock in the school hall for a few hours. The bizarre thing looking back is that I have absolutely no idea what I'd done wrong to be expelled in this manner.


That happened to me too in sixth grade in science class. I suppose there were times I was disruptive but after a while I was sent out there as soon as I walked in before I even had a chance to do anything. I don't remember how long that went on before they put me in the bad/stupid kid science class.



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30 Mar 2013, 8:26 pm

According to media accounts, the school district declined to renew the teacher's contract.

http://www.dailymail.com/News/201303280034


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03 Apr 2013, 11:57 am

If any teacher like that ever comes near me, expect to hear that their in the intensive care unit in critical condition :evil:

Teachers are a sore subject with me. Even if they're poking fun or f*****g with someone I hate, i'll still stick up for them (the person, not the teacher that is). Teachers are evil, awful, horrible people who are quick to blame all their problems on you and others. It's best to keep clear of them.


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23 Apr 2013, 9:20 am

The government needs to start evaluating teachers better. This is simply foul. I hope they fired the teacher.


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23 Apr 2013, 11:33 am

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The government needs to start evaluating teachers better. This is simply foul. I hope they fired the teacher.


Declined to renew the contract, same end result.


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23 Apr 2013, 11:47 am

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Guys, it said in the article that the student's 504/IEP outlined to remove him from class.

The teacher was 100% wrong here.


You seem very certain of your facts here.

I can certainly imagine circumstances in which that option would not have been avaialble to the teacher. If, for example,removing him from the class would leave him unsupervised or in a position in which he was a danger to himself or to others, then prevailing policy on protection of students would prevail over an IEP.

Making assumptions about the circumstances in which people were acting and then presuming to judge the actions of those people is a poor practice. Why don't we wait until people who actually have knowledge of the entirety of the facts hold the teacher to account, rather than jumping to half-informed conclusions?


And how would putting them in a 'bad kid' box make him in any less of a position to be a danger to himself or others, I an imagine being singled out like that might just increase the chances of him being a danger to himself or others as that is just provoking. I can see sending him out to the hall not being an option, but what the hell is the 'bad kid' box supposed to accomplish.

I don't think its wrong to judge the teachers actions as wrong, when there is no rational reason for the action they took even if the student could not be removed from class at that time.


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23 Apr 2013, 11:55 am

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League_Girl wrote:
I fail to see how putting someone in a box saying they are bad is supposed to help them. How does that work?


I'm not sure it does work or if it causes more harm.

When I was in infant school (aged 5 - 7) I was often kicked out of class and made to stand on my own under the clock in the school hall for a few hours. The bizarre thing looking back is that I have absolutely no idea what I'd done wrong to be expelled in this manner. As far as I'm aware I wasn't a bad or disruptive kid, but apparently I must have been - somehow, but the teachers never explained what I was doing wrong, or if they did I didn't understand. Probably Asperger's related. The only thing I learned from the expulsions was to hate the ticking sound of that accursed clock and that some teachers didn't seem to like me.


Hmm that is pretty much what I experianced at a young age in school...I'd be getting taken out of the classroom, taken to the office or otherwise penalized before I knew what happened wondering what I could have possibly done. This tended to make me very anxious so I'd just freak out more because I didn't take to well to being forcefully picked up(I was small enough I guess) and carried off somewhere away from everyone or the teacher demanding I go to 'time out' without ever knowing why.


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23 Apr 2013, 11:44 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
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I fail to see how putting someone in a box saying they are bad is supposed to help them. How does that work?


I'm not sure it does work or if it causes more harm.

When I was in infant school (aged 5 - 7) I was often kicked out of class and made to stand on my own under the clock in the school hall for a few hours. The bizarre thing looking back is that I have absolutely no idea what I'd done wrong to be expelled in this manner. As far as I'm aware I wasn't a bad or disruptive kid, but apparently I must have been - somehow, but the teachers never explained what I was doing wrong, or if they did I didn't understand. Probably Asperger's related. The only thing I learned from the expulsions was to hate the ticking sound of that accursed clock and that some teachers didn't seem to like me.


Hmm that is pretty much what I experianced at a young age in school...I'd be getting taken out of the classroom, taken to the office or otherwise penalized before I knew what happened wondering what I could have possibly done. This tended to make me very anxious so I'd just freak out more because I didn't take to well to being forcefully picked up(I was small enough I guess) and carried off somewhere away from everyone or the teacher demanding I go to 'time out' without ever knowing why.


Whatever happened to the concept of "Stop blaming Teachers and start parenting?" No, I am not trying to start a flame war. It's bad enough that education gets the short shrift, along with mental health, not only at the local and state level, but at the federal level.



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23 Apr 2013, 11:52 pm

If I had been sent to a "bad kid fort" in high school, I would have immediately began ranting about how my fortress was unassailable and daring everyone else to lay siege, and how the heads of my enemies would be skewered on polearms and I would fly their skins like banners. Then I would have drawn a bunch of trolls and wyverns on the inside of the box and began ranting about how my "monstrous host" would soon lay waste to all the kingdoms (classrooms) of the land of highschoolia.



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24 Apr 2013, 12:32 am

Geez.. I don't get why teachers have to do such things. :l



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24 Apr 2013, 3:40 am

Bad kid fort?
This kid is fifteen - closer to being an adult than to being a child. I'd expect using such a name for a cardboard box in grade school.

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24 Apr 2013, 9:01 am

Maybe call it a bad kid stockade or bad kid brig.


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24 Apr 2013, 3:18 pm

My biggest problem is the extreme boredom from the empty environment that I face as an overly curious Aspie trapped in a school with teachers who seem more concerned with what is easiest for them rather than what is best for me. Last month my math teacher only assigned us one problem per day so that he could watch the "Final Four" on the smart board during class. Rather than act out, I’ve learning to cope with the boredom by developing a reflex to zone out and become lost in my own thoughts to escape mentally. I keep very still and relax and visualize myself addressing complex conflicts and resolving them. I only hope that these endurance skills will serve me well in adult life.


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24 Apr 2013, 3:19 pm

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Maybe call it a bad kid stockade or bad kid brig.


How about not put the kid in a box of any sort?

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24 Apr 2013, 9:10 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Maybe call it a bad kid stockade or bad kid brig.


How about not put the kid in a box of any sort?

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A savage beating instead?
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