Damaging story on ASD & child porn by Temple Grandin's m

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05 Aug 2013, 12:20 pm

The article sounds incredibly reckless with negligible evidence to support it. Just what autistic people need... another reason for people to hate us and abuse us. :roll: So not only are we security risks who hack into the Pentagon's computers but we also go on gun rampages shooting children in schools and in our free time look at child porn. Great. Just f***ing great!

It is going to get to the stage that nobody is going to seek diagnosis and will deny their Asperger's just to avoid the negative associations portrayed by the media or reckless articles like the above. Which in turn will mean more of us muddling through life without any professional help. What are they going to accuse us of next? Witchcraft perhaps? Maybe we are all Satan's demons here to destroy the world? :roll:

What a stupid, irresponsible woman.


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05 Aug 2013, 12:36 pm

That seems sexist to me.

Not only men look at pornography or even pedophiliac pornography. If it were true that autistic men looked at little girls because it matched their internal maturity level wouldn't the same be true for women? I'd be offended if that was my mother and feel like I was labelled as a potential pedophile.

I don't believe it for either gender.



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05 Aug 2013, 12:59 pm

That article is a crock of crap.Like there are no NT's looking at child porn?If you look at any disorder you will find a few individuals that are into little kids.


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05 Aug 2013, 1:30 pm

Temple Grandin needs to get on top of this empirically unfounded senile ranting and do some damage control. Her Mother is not only slandering the entire Autistic community, it can't do anything but hurt Temple's own reputation as well.



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05 Aug 2013, 1:37 pm

^^^^Yes.The scary fact is that since the article is by Temple Grandin's mother, it will seem credible to people.


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05 Aug 2013, 2:10 pm

Doesn't everyone who has a diagnosis already have enough to deal with already?
This may sound like an extreme opinion as well, but the one thing more dangerous than death is being labelled a "sex offender"



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05 Aug 2013, 3:09 pm

I did not bother reading half of that article. Making such ridiculous assumptions without any credible evidence drove me nuts. It is all worthless drivel.


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05 Aug 2013, 3:15 pm

If anyone is interested in contacting her, I think I found her phone number and address. There was only one result for Eustacia Cutler on People Finder. People Finder told me that she lives in New York City, so I used that information to find out what her phone number is, by searching on the White Pages. Apparently there's only one E. Cutler in New York City. Here's her phone number and address information just in case you'd like to contact her.

Address: 200 W 70th St, Apt 12F
New York, NY 10023-4326

Phone: (212) 724-9541

Here are my sources:
http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/preview.aspx?searchtype=people-name&item-id=OP-304389776&fn=eustacia&mn=&ln=cutler&city=&state=&age=&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=

http://www.phonenumber.com/name/E-Cutler/New-York-NY/2qyn060



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05 Aug 2013, 3:20 pm

I would be wary of doing anything that might seem like harassment.

There is a contact email for the Daily Beast editors, and I think I would be more comfortable directing my thoughts to her though them:
[email protected].



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05 Aug 2013, 3:38 pm

^ It might be an idea to direct their attention to this thread.


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05 Aug 2013, 3:42 pm

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05 Aug 2013, 4:45 pm

I wouldn't contact either of them - again, it's way too much like harassment. As an alternative, you could contact The Daily Beast, leave comments on the article instead to express yourself, or write a blog post stating your feelings or something.


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05 Aug 2013, 5:03 pm

It is very mean to post personal information such as a personal address or phone number that doesn't belong to you on an internet forum.



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05 Aug 2013, 5:16 pm

aspiemike wrote:
It is very mean to post personal information such as a personal address or phone number that doesn't belong to you on an internet forum.

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't have posted Temple's contact information. I just removed it. I don't really care about her mom's contact information though, so I'll just leave it there.



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05 Aug 2013, 5:56 pm

The numbers do not work.

Taking mostly males as ASD, 1 in 60, 20 in a 1,000 of which 2 have been sexually abused, and some percent of those will also be good with computers, gives a very small group before we get to who may also have downloaded kiddie porn.

Taking a computer to a shop shows a lack of skill, leaving kiddie porn on it a lack of common sense, and if there was a direct connection between viewing porn, and acting on it, people would be having sex in the streets.

A warning to the dumb to not download and save kiddie porn? More a warning to their parents, that computers are evil.

So one woman saying that ASD males could use computers to view porn has discovered the digital age, and Satan Worship.

Back in the real world, as real as it gets, kiddie porn and child sex stings have posted their catch, which was run of the mill NT, If anything, the very social types, Religion and Politics lead by far in child sex convictions.

With some known facts, 95% of child sex is within home, family, close friends, then Teachers, Preachers, and only the small group where children and politics meet.

Compared to real problems, there are about 300 serial killers at work, one in a million, and those who kill children are rare.

ASDs are less of a numerical threat than serial child killers who are cannibals, and left handed. Then the compared threat, killed and ate a child, vs downloaded a picture.

At 1 1/2% of the population, some disabled, asocial, recluses, ASDs do not produce the raw numbers that could account for much of anything.

Then there is the adversion to sex that is noted, not fitting in the NT Social Hedonist sex driven world, there is little chance they would ever get laid.

Real numbers say that 10% or more of children complain of adult sexual abuse, and we know from rape that most cases are not reported. A guess would be a third to half of children, some 30,000,000+.

Then there are the ones who never complain, taking it as a moving number, as being a child takes years, there is a lot of actual sex going on between adults and children. ASDs are over represented on the child side.

Kiddie porn, sex between an adult and a child, are like home movies for millions, who were the child. Putting the memories they have into context as an older person, understanding the behavior of hairless ground apes, is stepping back and seeing the whole. It is also illegal therapy.

It is not to be viewed, spoken of, and they are told it was all their fault.

It is treated like a Sunday School Secret that everyone knows and ignors. It would make God look bad. There is a lot of natural coverup.

Blaming ASD virgins fits the profile. There are hundreds that fit the demographic, old enough to use a computer, dumb enough to download FBI supplied free kiddie porn.

What is being covered up is a third of adults having sex with a third of children. A hundred million may have involvment in that cult.

It must be the fault of visual images, and ASDs.

In Australia, viewing Simpsons cartoon rule 34 porn is a kiddie porn sex offense. In America cartoons are legal, photos are criminal. Some of the actual Simpsons shows are kiddy porn in Australia, parts of Europe, as they contain minors and sexual situations.

Since ASDs also Worship Satan, supply camel feed to Osama, and are three times as likely to tell of sexual assult, the hundred million cult is out to discredit them. They do pick children who cannot complain.

ASDs are top ranked for sexploitation, getting triple the action, and viewing movies like the memories they have of home movies, school, church, revives evidence, and puts the past into context. Father Flanigan's School for Alter Boys is kiddie porn, and the childhood memories of many boys, combined.

From Masters and Johnson we have a baseline of child sex sixty years ago, and since then, children have become more sexualized at a younger age. It was adults that replaced below the knee night gowns with baby doll sleepwear, thongs for first graders, makeup, and Bratz dolls.

JonBenet was the poster child for the changing meaning of hard work, good grades, and approval. She was doing Marilin Monroe at five, with the same results.

So Aspie nerds are the problem? Right.



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05 Aug 2013, 6:31 pm

I don't think Temple's mom's views really align with the majority population's views. She's 86 years old, she's bound to be somewhat more ignorant and bigoted than the younger population. Probably only about half of the Generation X-ers are ignorant enough to believe that this crap is true. Probably only somewhere between a tenth and a fifth of the Generation Y-ers are that ignorant. If this pattern continues, Generation Z should turn out even less ignorant than my generation, Generation Y. Public opinion of Autistics should improve over time, as the population becomes less ignorant.