kindergartener handcuffed, arrested, charged with felony

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02 Apr 2007, 10:42 pm

WTF? You can't just arrest a little kid! Ok, I think it's official that the world has gone completely mad.


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02 Apr 2007, 10:49 pm

This may not be stupid.

Bear in mind that in the US of A felons cannot own firearms.

Disarmed people are not citizens, they are subjects.

Totalitarianism marches on.

Ever notice how all new schools LOOK like prisons? How about this prison term "lockdown" used in schools?

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04 Apr 2007, 6:06 pm

nutbag wrote:
This may not be stupid.

Bear in mind that in the US of A felons cannot own firearms.

Disarmed people are not citizens, they are subjects.

Totalitarianism marches on.

Ever notice how all new schools LOOK like prisons? How about this prison term "lockdown" used in schools?

1984


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04 Apr 2007, 6:42 pm

Doing this kind of thing to people dramatically increases their desire to do violence to others, in my opinion. It rarely occurred to me to want anyone harmed or dead until enough people had kicked me around enough. I think the idea was to train me to hate so that I could be used to hate people like Iraqis.



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06 Apr 2007, 10:01 pm

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You mean to tell me those big adults couldn't handle a little six year-old girl? The adults need to be fired for lack of competence if they have to call the police on a Kindergartener.

My god, whatever happened to common sense? Has TV watching and religion really sucked the intelligence out of people's brains that much? Oh well. What more can I expect from the same people who elected Bush? :(


My sentiments, exactly! What ever happened to the training that elementary school teachers are supposed to undergo to work with that age child? Don't they know how to diffuse a situation, to prevent it from escalating to the point where they're compelled to call the law? (Which still baffles me). I could see if she came to school with a weapon, and started attacking another child, or a teacher. But just a six year old having a tantrum? C"mon, already! 8O


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07 Apr 2007, 6:30 pm

I don't think this was about disclipine, I think it was about dicrimation seeing how the little girl was black.



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17 Apr 2007, 10:53 am

KalahariMeerkat wrote:
I don't think this was about disclipine, I think it was about dicrimation seeing how the little girl was black.

Maybe. I think it was more to do with shoddy teacher training though. So what if she's having a temper tantrum? SHE'S SIX!! ! Most 'normal' people I know didn't fully stop temper tantrums until age eight.


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17 Apr 2007, 2:23 pm

KalahariMeerkat wrote:
I don't think this was about disclipine, I think it was about dicrimation seeing how the little girl was black.


Possibly, but probably not. I've now lived in Georgia and Ohio for the same amount of time, and I've actually run into more racism up north than down south. I saw very little racism in Georgia (which is, although a different state, very close to Florida). By contrast, Ohio seems to be full of it. The south can get into a lot more trouble for that, simply because of the history, so they're usually more careful about preventing it...


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17 Apr 2007, 6:29 pm

I did not even know people could arrest 6 year olds.
I understand they have other kids to deal with but thats not a reason to scare her like that, if she had brought a gun or something to school it would be more understandable.


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17 Apr 2007, 6:51 pm

Same here, I thought you had to be a certain age to be arrested. They're only 6 years old.



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18 Apr 2007, 10:29 am

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Same here, I thought you had to be a certain age to be arrested. They're only 6 years old.


Yep, ten.


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18 Apr 2007, 10:35 am

Those cops are stupid :!:


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18 Apr 2007, 11:12 am

Well, I try to ask myself, what would I do if some kid was majorly acting out (if, indeed, she was) at the time I was called in as a police officer. The way I see it, I have two options. Stand there and allow the child to act-out until she stops -- awkward in the extreme, espeically in a public setting, and perhaps inadvisable depending on the degree of acting-out. (Well, first of all, it wouldn't be a great situation for any Aspie to deal with!! :lol: ) I don't think policemen are trained in "Aww, what seems to be the problem, little girl?" So they probably weren't the best choice for getting the child under control. It goes back to the general question, How do you subdue a wild child? (If, indeed, the child was being physically out-of-control.) It just depends on the situation, but one of the morals of this story is, if you call the police, you are going to get police-style action. Teachers should have the authority to restrain (or have restrained by other school officials) a child who is endangering herself or other children, and refuses to stop. This should obviously be done with common-sense carefulness, for adults are many times stronger than small children, and thus should use their capabilities to restrain the children gently yet firmly, accomplishing safety for everyone involved. Perhaps the teacher felt she was not allowed to physically interfere with the child under ANY circumstances, under threat of lawsuit. Some laws in some states seem to dictate such teacher-helplessness.


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18 Apr 2007, 6:45 pm

YEa if she had brought a gun or something it would be way different but all she did was kick pinch hit. Wow that is so bad shes 6 for gods sake.I say leave her alone!! !! !



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22 Apr 2007, 10:37 pm

KalahariMeerkat wrote:
I don't think this was about disclipine, I think it was about dicrimation seeing how the little girl was black.


To add to all of the other things that have been said about your comment... Notice that most schools are funded by local tax revenue (meaning that the student to teacher ratio is more favorable if you live in a wealthy district). Since blacks are disproportionately represented in poorer areas, chances are that this little girl was in a classroom with lots of other kids and one very overwhelmed teacher. So maybe the teacher was just at the end of her rope because she had 35 to 40 other six year olds to deal with (which is inhuman, even if they aren't all throwing temper tantrums).



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23 Apr 2007, 8:34 pm

Another aspect to this:

In the US of A, felons may not vote, hold certain public offices, or own guns. Is this felonization of the young a back door to their decitizenization?


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