Wii Remote mistaken for gun: shot and killed

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auntblabby
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22 Feb 2014, 10:09 pm

what would the german citizenry do if there were such a case as the Wii controller shooting over there? in America, nobody outside of family and a small circle of friends seems to give a damn. phil ochs in 1968 sang about American sheeple's self-righteous self-interested passivity in the face of such oppression ["outside of a small circle of friends"].



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22 Feb 2014, 10:52 pm

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This is why I usually hate cops!


I hate cops too. I think we should kill them all, or at least the bad ones, and start all over, as I don't think you can fix them.


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22 Feb 2014, 10:54 pm

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Is this some new trend? I'm hearing more and more stories of cops going too extreme recently. What is going on? Well, that's it. Never trust an officer. Next thing you know, they'll start beating down on people who stare cross-eyed.


I wouldn't be suppressed that they are people that the mental hospital won't take, or they train them to be thugs.


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22 Feb 2014, 10:58 pm

Drehmaschine wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
what are german cops like?

Nothing like the Petit Army over there. Not all forces have guns (the SEK do) and over half of the shots fired by Police are for warnings- German Police fire less shots in a year than USA fires in one month. If we need to contain a crowd, we use numbers, not fire-power. Our officers are not perfect either. There are still issues with use of force (non lethal) and some financial corruption, but we certainly would not shoot someone with a game controller in hand. Many cases of brutality are due to the strain in German-Turk relations. Still unacceptable and the government is working to address the issue.

Didn't you have a Petit Army in the '30s and '40s though? That is one of the things that the American police forces are taking ideas from. Other oppressive states come to mind too.


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22 Feb 2014, 11:39 pm

Many officers have untreated PTSD and high suicide rates.They hide their problems because of the stigma of seeking mental health.That needs to change.If you think of what they see in a days work it would take a mental toll.Some are soldiers that have returned and maybe are not ready to deal with civilians.If you are used to thinking that everyone is a possible threat, it's hard to change those thought patterns overnight.Think of having to work the scene of an accident with body parts everywhere,it would be a stressful job to say the least.A deputy I know had to walk along the highway looking for a severed arm,not a job I'd want.I'm sure he's seen worse than that.Take the police in Springfield,Mo,who had to find that ten year old girl shot in the head and stuffed in a box in some creeps basement.You would never get that out of your head.
Some should never have that job,they don't have the mindset or ability to make the right choice in a split second.Better screening on who to hire and regular mental health check ups would go along way to improving the police force.


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23 Feb 2014, 12:54 am

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If I lived in the USA, I would keep a reminder on the door with a checklist of things to do and not to do when the Police arrive at your door. #1 on the list would be: Make sure to have nothing in your hands.


#1 is actually 'don't call the cops for any reason ever''.


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23 Feb 2014, 9:17 am

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You've never known my parents. They were of the opinion shoot first, and to hell with the questions! When they said "Jump", you responded, "How high?", then did the deed. If they said "S***", you responded "What color, consistency, and where do you want it?"


I'm curious as to why they went with that saying :)



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23 Feb 2014, 11:02 am

The problem is that some video game remotes look like pistols, has any one any idea what the one in this case looked like ?


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23 Feb 2014, 3:08 pm

This is why we should buy a PS3 or Xbox 360 instead of a Wii folks! you never know when a cop is going to knock on your door and shoot you! 8O


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23 Feb 2014, 3:12 pm

what a country. :hmph:



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23 Feb 2014, 7:25 pm

Woodpecker wrote:
The problem is that some video game remotes look like pistols, has any one any idea what the one in this case looked like ?

even if it looked just like a gun that gives no right to just shoot
you are allowed to carry guns in America
in most states you can even carry them in the open
if you want you can walk around with a rifle on your back and a handgun on your chest
there is nothing illegal about answering your door with a firearm in fact it could be considered a good idea you can never know if the person at the door is really a home invader



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23 Feb 2014, 7:32 pm

looks like the rigorous application of tort law is Americans' only hope.



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24 Feb 2014, 6:15 am

auntblabby wrote:
what would the german citizenry do if there were such a case as the Wii controller shooting over there? in America, nobody outside of family and a small circle of friends seems to give a damn. phil ochs in 1968 sang about American sheeple's self-righteous self-interested passivity in the face of such oppression ["outside of a small circle of friends"].


I live in Austria, I think our cops mentality can be pretty much compared to the german ones. So you always have some black sheeps, but normally if incidents happens it goes into press. So even in Austria I know of an incident of german police, that have seem to reated a drunken and aggressive woman pretty hard (It seems, that she was chained to a bed, and then beaten.) just as there was an incident in Austria, that caused much discussion about an mental ill (I think schizoid.) man/woman, that looked him/herself in her flat and did not dare to come out anymore. Relatives called the police/emergency, because of them fearing that their relative would starve itself, while being caught in its psychosis. It ended with the ill person hiding in the bath with a knife, and attacking the policemen with it, when they opened the door for the emergency. In the shock the policemen fired on the ill person, and he/she died.

The prob was not for the people, that the policement defended themselve at all, but around here they have lots fof training to end conflicts with as less violance as possible and to stay calm in most possible situations. So policemen should not get that easily shocked, that they start shooting several times at someone, but we expect them to keep calm and make propper use of their weapon in an necessary amount. (So I think the person was hit 5 times, and even the emergency could not help him/her anymore.) Thats what we are paying tons of trainings for them, so that we can see them as people to respect, and not as armed people you need to be afraid of to panick and shoot around.



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24 Feb 2014, 1:32 pm

Woodpecker wrote:
The problem is that some video game remotes look like pistols, has any one any idea what the one in this case looked like ?



I have never seen a Wii remote look like a pistol.


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24 Feb 2014, 4:14 pm

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I've read multiple times, that many police departments reject applicants with an IQ more than one standard deviation away from normal, in either direction.


I'm pretty sure they don't reject applicants on the low end if the IQ spectrum. Until maybe 15 years ago, I would have agreed with you that most cops had an average or maybe even slightly above average IQ. But the cops today are just dumb.

Most of the cops working today, get out of High School and join the military. They spent their time in Iraq or Afghanistan. Then they come back and get on the police department. They have no education, no job skills, no nothing. If they weren't working in law enforcement, they would literally be flipping burgers at McD's, or something.

If you don't believe me, just try to have a conversation with one of these guys. Actually thats not a good idea. Don't do that. It just pisses them off, if you do that.



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24 Feb 2014, 4:17 pm

Schneekugel wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
what would the german citizenry do if there were such a case as the Wii controller shooting over there? in America, nobody outside of family and a small circle of friends seems to give a damn. phil ochs in 1968 sang about American sheeple's self-righteous self-interested passivity in the face of such oppression ["outside of a small circle of friends"].


I live in Austria, I think our cops mentality can be pretty much compared to the german ones. So you always have some black sheeps, but normally if incidents happens it goes into press. So even in Austria I know of an incident of german police, that have seem to reated a drunken and aggressive woman pretty hard (It seems, that she was chained to a bed, and then beaten.) just as there was an incident in Austria, that caused much discussion about an mental ill (I think schizoid.) man/woman, that looked him/herself in her flat and did not dare to come out anymore. Relatives called the police/emergency, because of them fearing that their relative would starve itself, while being caught in its psychosis. It ended with the ill person hiding in the bath with a knife, and attacking the policemen with it, when they opened the door for the emergency. In the shock the policemen fired on the ill person, and he/she died.

The prob was not for the people, that the policement defended themselve at all, but around here they have lots fof training to end conflicts with as less violance as possible and to stay calm in most possible situations. So policemen should not get that easily shocked, that they start shooting several times at someone, but we expect them to keep calm and make propper use of their weapon in an necessary amount. (So I think the person was hit 5 times, and even the emergency could not help him/her anymore.) Thats what we are paying tons of trainings for them, so that we can see them as people to respect, and not as armed people you need to be afraid of to panick and shoot around.


police are trained not to aim their guns when they fire but to just dump the mag and retreat for backup if the target is not dead