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The 70's were sold on global cooling: http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/1970s-ice-age-scare/. It was pretty universally accepted and still wrong.

There are actually many scientists that disagree with the religion of AGW. Government bodies by and large have a financial stake in selling the idea that a.) its happening and b.) if we throw enough of your tax dollars at it we can change it.

Climate change is a reality its been changing between extreme warms and colds since the beginning of time and will probably continue to do so long after the humans species escapes into space.

The biggest problem with the concept is that normal for the last 100 years doesn't mean dip diddly in the whole scheme of things.

The problem they have selling it is they have been shown to be alarmists to the extreme and virtually everyone of their dire consequence scenarios have proven to be false. Their graphs don't work, their models fail, they cant write a model to duplicate the last 100 years of known weather much less the next 100. Every record high is global warming out to kill us all, every record low is dismissed as just weather, please ignore. 14 years ago they swore snow would end forever and kids would grow up never sledding or building a snowman: http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 24017.html. Buffallo New York will gladly dispel that notion. Al Gore preached the end of artic ice by 2015, it is actually at record levels.

The earth runs on cycles probably based on things that we may never understand because of the massive passages of time necessary to see them.

To suggest that the free market system should be suppressed to fight a non existent threat is shameful by those that know the difference and foolish for those that follow blindly.

“There are actually many scientists that disagree with the religion of AGW.”
Gakmt
NOPE! 98% of those that specialize in climate science agree with AGW.
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“The 70's were sold on global cooling”
Gakmt
NOPE!
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10. ... BAMS2370.1
Global cooling was NEVER accepted by science. I suppose you will say that the American Meteorological Society is part of the conspiracy! ( along with EVERY scientific organization in the world.)

All the rest of what you wrote has NO BASIS IN FACT! ALLTHE DATA shows that AGW is happening. It is interesting that no one here has provided any contrary evidence.*
* Altering graphs and falsifying evidence is not evidence.
PS; My opposition only offers their opinion. They never give any facts from primary sources. Hmmm. I wonder why? Obviously, because they have no facts on their side.

Seriously, why does ALL the data say that we are warming and that CO2 has facilitated it? Since you disbelieve EVERY validated scientific organization in the world ( I have given their sites and statements), explain why they are all wrong. Conspiracy? Incompetent? And since you believe that NO scientific organization in the world can be trusted, where do you get your data that the world is not warming. Oh yeah , some guy's blog.
PS; That cycles argument is silly. It was disproved many years ago.

Temperature data says nothing about causal relationships, and the most reliable data, namely satellite data, says the globe has been cooling since 1998. Nobody knows how the climate works. It's a mystery.

Yes Human-Caused Global Warming is a huge lie. The climate is going through it's multi-century cycles.

PLEASE STOP LYING!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !
We already proved that the world is not cooling. 2005,2010 and 2014 are hotter than 1998. Yes, you did provide a graph that showed global warming , that you altered to show global cooling, but THAT IS NOT EVIDENCE!! !
The science has proven that CO2 facilitates warming. Yes, simply showing that temps go up when CO2 is added to the atmosphere is not proof. It only shows a very likely causal relation. However, the physics is unequivocal *, CO2 does cause warming.
* experiments have been made and the causal process is well understood.

So who is behind this giant conspiracy that invoves EVERY scientific organization in the world? Bigfoot? Elvis? The Masons?
So NASA, the American meteorological Society, The Royal Academy, NOAA... are all controlled by Satan?
I'm sorry, your post is a joke.
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Actually, cycles do occur and that is more evidence of AGW. If it were not for man’s influence we would be getting cooler. However, as ALL the data shows we are getting warmer.

“Where are we currently in the natural cycle (Milankovitch cycle)? The warmest point of the last cycle was around 10,000 years ago, at the peak of the Holocene. Since then, there has been an overall cooling trend, consistent with a continuation of the natural cycle, and this cooling would continue for thousands of years into the future if all else remained the same. But since 1750 however, the CO2 content of the atmosphere has deviated from the natural cycle. Instead of decreasing, it has increased because of the fossil-fuel burning. Methane and nitrous oxide have also increased unnaturally because of agricultural practices and other factors. The world has also warmed unnaturally. We are now deviating from the natural cycle.”
FROM
http://ossfoundation.us/projects/enviro ... ural-cycle

AntDog,
Since you think that ALL the data from EVERY scientific organization in the world is a lie, where do you get your data that global warming is not happening? Oh yeah, some guy's blog.
Or maybe you are relying on humanaut's faked graphs?

CO2 has increased since before 1750, when few were burning coal, oil was far in the future, but the population was growing, and more land was being plowed more often. The only way for CO2 to leave the system is being taken up by plants that then die, and feed the Carbon Based soil lifeforms, and remain trapped until they form Carbonates. The plow is what blocked this part of the Carbon Cycle. Greenhouse gasses match the rise of industrial farming, and the curve does not change when later times use huge amounts of fossil-fuel.
I agree with the result, but not the cause. Now that it is warming, cubic miles of water have become vapor in the air, over hundreds of years, and stopping warming would release it as rain or snow. As is, water vapor holds the heat, it is the big greenhouse gas.
We have two problems, one is restoring the Carbon Cycle, the second is the runaway results of our Science. Its a hard rain gonna be a fallin.

There is no need to worry at all about runaway warming. It isn't going to happen. If it could happen, it would have already done so.

Water vapor has more than one effect. The more clouds, the more the solar radiation is reflected back into space.

Global cooling kills 30 in India.

http://reliefweb.int/report/india/cold-wave-hits-north-india-30-die

I learned in schooll that the earth's atmosphere is only as hospitable to us because millions of ears ago, trees bound the carbon-dioxide and were buried underground, before bacteria evovled that could eat and digest the wood, and thus make them rot, releasing the carbon dioxide back into the atmosphere.
It sounded like a dumb idea to burn those trees, which hadturned into coal.
I find it confusing why 25 years later, with so much scientific consensus that indeed, it turned out to be eventually as dumb as it sounded, there is still this discussion.
(admittedly, it was great while it lasted, but we better use our remaining time on fossil fuels, which will run out anyway, to figure out what to do next.)

???? It is already happening!! Or do you believe that all the scientific organizations in the world are falsifying data?

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That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic! We are talking about the temperature of the entire earth increasing.
You really need to take a basic critical thinking course! Your "argument" is basically saying that because it was unusually cold in a particular area that means that it is colder everywhere! That is like saying that because it was cold on July 15 that proves that summer is a myth.

I agree! AGW ( anthropogenic global warming) is the consensus. There is no dispute in ANY scientific organization that the world is warming and that we have contributed to the process.
AGW deniers are like the flat earthers. No matter how much evidence that the earth is not flat, people will believe in their intuition rather than science , logic and empirical data.

“New Study Confirms Water Vapor as Global Warming Amplifier”
“Using the set of climate model experiments, the researchers showed that rising water vapor in the upper troposphere cannot be explained by natural forces, such as volcanoes and changes in solar activity, but can be explained by increased greenhouse gases, such as CO2.”
FROM
http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/news-events/ ... -amplifier
Yes, CO2 causes more water vapor which amplifies global warming. In other words, more CO2 released, more global warming.