"Unelectable" Jeremy Corbyn wins, again.

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With the whole corporate media and most of the crooked MP's against him, he's done incredibly to get nearly 62% to beat Owen Smith. Who will he have to face next year? Would be great if it was May, who couldn't even win her position as leader in a democratic fashion.

It's an absolute disaster for the country, but then Smith is essentially the same person with a blank slate so not much better.

Corbyn has very little chance of winning a general election because he is very unpopular outside of his little circle. He's less popular than Theresa May! Where it matters, people aren't voting for him.

We need a credible opposition who can defeat the Conservatives, or at least make them fear defeat. Without that, they'll be free to control the country for the next ten years.

The MPs who pretended to support Corbyn to "broaden the debate" must be kicking themselves. With Cooper in charge, Labour would probably be leading the polls right now.

It's absolutely brilliant for the country. We now have a socialist in charge of a socialist party and an honest man, a good man and someone who actually believes what they says and is fighting against big corporations and the war machine. You want someone the polar opposite of that to fight someone else who's the polar opposite of Corbyn so they can squabble over pennies, while they just fight for the same causes?

Corbyn has a great chance of winning an election, especially when real conservatives see May for the fraud she is. She's a massive fan of Blair. She's a massive fan of Saudia Arabia and Israel. As people wake up to the crimes of our government and co over the next 4 years, there is a great chance people will put their faith in a non mass murderer like Corbyn. Then this could perhaps lead to the Conservative party actually getting someone who's actually conservative and maybe honest too.

It's true that it's going to be a massive ask for Corbyn, when he has the whole media against him. But when we have war mongers like Blair and David Miliband crowing against Corbyn, it will only continue to wake people up to reality.

No point having a Blairite/Zionist/Tory from Labour just so they can beat a Blairite/Zionist/Tory from the Tory party.

Cooper is a liar and a fraud and Corbyn demolished her last year, via the Labour voters.

He hasn't got the media against him. He just positions himself against most people's common sense in practically everything. The people in the media might not like him, but he brings all the derision he gets onto himself with his ridiculous student union politics that most people with an IQ above fifteen should have grown out of by the age of twenty.

He's unbelievably dense, delusional, and a proud anti-Semitic dhimmi.

Also, he's no friend of the working class. He hates the very essence of social mobility. The minute a working class person does well for themselves, they become the enemy in the eyes of Corbyn and his radical thug following.

There was a time when I couldn't conceive ever voting for anyone other than Labour. As things stand, my cross will be going next to the Tory candidate for some time to come.

Any proof for these accusations? I think you'll find that the media who despise him are making out that the public don't agree with things like being against war. The media call war mongering politicians "moderates" like they called the organ eating 'Syrian rebels' "moderates". And it's good for you to vote for the Tories if you're against socialism and for war.

What are you talking about? I'm no Tory, but I wouldn't say they were any more pro-war than any other party. Remind me. Who was in power when we made the stupid decision to follow America into Iraq?

I am no way pro-war, and more often than not cringe at the west's disastrous interventions in the middle east, but I recognise that wars have to be fought sometimes for the greater good. Do you think the people who laid down their lives in the fight against Hitler liked war?

So Corbyn wants to scrap our nukes because he doesn't like war... That's not called a 'noble sentiment' in this nasty world of ours. It's called being a prize bell end.

Labour were in charge, with Blair at the helm, and you want another Blair like figure back in charge? The self proclaimed "heir to Blair", dodgy Dave Cameron would have done the same thing. Corbyn was protesting against that war.

They are intended to cause disaster. The soldiers in WWI and WWII had no choice. Our leaders did though.

We couldn't even use our nukes without America's permission. And it's all a farce anyway. If there was going to be a nuclear war with Russia it would have happened during the 'Cold War'. The arms industry needs there to be this alleged threat to keep their profits rising. Not to mention that we are breaking International Law by continuing to spend billions on perfecting nukes etc, while expecting those on the other side of the non-proliferation treaty to keep their end of the deal going.

The brand of socialism promoted by Corbyn and Smith is a failure. They want to renationalise services which have improved since being privatised. They want to take universities back to the dark days of the 1980s. No thanks.

It's also been repeatedly rejected by the country since Callaghan.

No. Ideally I'd like the Labour party to be a moderate centre-left party without its present authoritarian tendencies. That might be electable and could then implement better policies than a May government. Ideally it would be in a coalition with the Lib Dems would provide some genuine liberalism and radical ideas.

I don't want an obsession with ideological purity, I want results. If a socialist Labour Party led by someone from the Corbyn/Smith camp ever gets as many progressive policies implemented as Tony Blair or even Nick Clegg, then that would be great, but it is unrealistic.



Corbyn has been in a terrible electoral position since he won the first leadership election. He's doing worse than Miliband, who lost, despite the government being much weaker.

May is much more conservative than Cameron, who won two elections. I don't think a lack of conservatism will cost her. Best case scenario for Labour is she goes power mad and tries to force through the Snooper's Charter, grammar schools, her free speech clampdown, and other hard-right policies.


Corbyn has repeatedly expressed support for terrorist groups and the public do not trust him on foreign policy. There is not much chance of people suddenly deciding that the Iraq War is going to affect how they vote in 2020 - that would be like WWII deciding how you vote in 1960.

An honest politician?!

Aside from the honest bit, that's the absolute nightmare scenario. Corbyn clinging on could allow the Conservative Party to drift to the right. After twenty years of moderate neoliberalism, the last thing we want is a lurch towards extremism.

I've stated my opinion on the Iraq war.

I dislike both Blair and Cameron, I think they're both lying weasels, but I'd rather have either of them as PM than Corbyn.

They already tried reaching for the middle of the fence and that failed miserably with (Red lol) Ed so give the Corbster a try, he's more electable than Smith obviously, so he's not as unelectable as they wanted him to be. I get where the theory comes from because he's going to have to win a lot of new ground. I think he's a wonderful human being but a little too morally admirable which sounds quite funny, I massively disagree with him on Trident but I like listening to someone speak properly and not DOWN to the public on matters of foreign policy, some of the stuff the media has slapped on him is extraordinary when he speaks about options other than dropping bombs on people. I do find his extreme reluctance to deal a firm hand out when it's strategically in our interests as worrying if he's going to be leading the british empire... there's a reason we're at the top of the food table, it's all about balance, no point isolating ourselves into a comfortable ball of wool and floating around. I remember reading a forum where somebody said ''Has this man ever stood up to anyone'' lol.

Absolute disaster for the country.

It is always important that there is strong opposition so that MP's are held to account and are pushed to be the best they can be, but now, with Brexit, it is more important that ever that someone strong is there to ask the important questions.

I am on the left, and he even has the odd idea that I don't mind, but the guy is an old protester, not a leader of anything. Getting 0.5% of the national vote frothing at the mouth doesn't mean anything. You need to appeal to the wider public, and Jez doesn't do that. The media also don't have it in for him in the slightest, that is just said between Corbyn's followers desperately trying and convince themselves he is half competent. 'They hate him as he is dangerous!' Turn it in. The guy is as dangerous as a wet lettuce.

Improved for who exactly? Corrupt politicians privatise industries for their buddies and their own interests, not to make things better for the people of the country. They make us pay for it but make sure the profits go to them. Could you explain what you mean about the universities please.

This 'moderate/center-left' stuff is just tripe. The media calls the Labour MP's in favor of more wars "moderate" and called the organ eating 'Syrian rebels', "moderates".

Jesus. If you don't like the party, then don't vote for them. This whole thing of parties trying to pander to everyone is beyond a joke. We have a proper socialist in charge of the Labour party which could hopefully lead to a real conservative in charge of the Conservatives. Then we'd probably need some more parties and completely break up our current system.

If you just crow for power and forget about integrity, then we'll continue to get the crooks we have. I want something better. The media calls Corbyn "unelectable", yet he's been an elected politician for 30 years and has won two Labour leadership elections two years in a row, by landslides! Blair and Clegg are both psychotic frauds.

Corbyn has had the whole media against him. It's amazing how he won again on Saturday. He has now strengthened his position and he will grow stronger as we learn what a fraud May is. May is not conservative at all. She says a few conservative things then does the complete opposite. Just look at her actions and record. The only real difference being the Grammar schools. All these corrupt politicians have had a free speech clampdown.

If you're referring to Hezbollah and Hamas. You realise they aren't just terrorist groups because Israel and the US says so? The EU has taken Hamas off the terrorist list. These groups are both formed out of resistance to Israeli terrorism, which we support and which the US supports and funds. Some US and UK politicians are the biggest terrorists in the world. Well people are starting to wake up. When May decides we need to go into, say, Yemen. More and more people will start to smell the coffee.

We need the Conservative to be conservative. We have a Conservative party that supports mass immigration, multiculturalism and is against punishing criminals.

Awesome

Good points.

The last thing we need to another leader who just panders to the public and will say anything to get elected. Corbyn will stand by what he believes, he's anti-war and has the balls to stick to that. Someone like Obama was probably anti-war and now is a mass murderer and has started numerous wars or continued others.

The media don't have it in for Corbyn? Even the Daily Mirror, a Labour paper was telling him to go and giving him negative press, daily. Even though the majority of Labour voters want Corbyn in. It's not about what the media, the other sell out politicians, the bankers, the corporate machines etc wants, it's about what the voters want. If you don't like it, then vote for someone else. It really isn't rocket science.

Corbyn is massively dangerous to the military industrial complex, and that's a machine that must not be stopped. A politician in charge who's against the war machine is the most dangerous thing to these crooks and murderers.

Rubbish. All it takes is a wink from a jihadi, and any apparent principles Jeremy holds regarding feminism, LGBT rights , anti-Semitism, and anti-war sentiment go flying out of the window.

No 'man of peace', would have the disgusting John McDonnell as his number two.



You mean the tiny few that remain?

Labour have left their traditional support base far behind. They stopped supporting the interests of working class people and started calling them bigots and telling them what to think. The further left the party is taken, the further it will be from power, because they represent NOBODY in the real world these days.