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21 Oct 2016, 3:43 pm

That is worse.


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21 Oct 2016, 3:51 pm

Adamantium wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nathan-carman-lost-at-sea-vermont-home-search-linda-carman/

Am I being paranoid to read it that way?

It seems like this man just lost his mom in a boating accident and they are now suggesting that he killed her and killed his grand dad. Oh, and he has aspergers and was once upset when his horse died... so, you know...

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A man who was rescued after spending a week at sea in a life raft was debriefed by the Coast Guard Tuesday in Boston after the search for his mother was called off. Authorities also searched his home for clues.


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The Carman family has had hard times. In 2013, Linda Carman’s father was found shot to death in his Windsor, Connecticut home. That crime remains unsolved. According to CBS Hartford affiliate WFSB, Nathan Carman was “a primary person of interest” in the murder of his grandfather.

Nathan has Asperger’s syndrome, a higher-functioning form of autism.


It's unclear what happened, but that's no reason not to leap to conclusions! /sarcasm

It sounds like they're saying that the police have questions. I hope that an autistic person has not been profiled by the police. I consider it likely, but I try not to rush to judgment in any particular case. I have seen lots of cases where people on the spectrum got screwed, but I didn't see anything in the article that indicated that's happening here. I only read the first post and the article before replying. I plan to read the comments next, and I bet people blame the autism. I'll post again or edit this post.

Okay. I got through 10(?) comments and I want to puke. You probably read them before posting this story?


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21 Oct 2016, 3:58 pm

He may or may not have done it, but mentioning that he has an ASD is highly inappropriate. First, there's the obvious fact that they're trying to say the two could be connected without coming right out and saying it. Autism is stigmatized enough as it is. Connecting it to murder is outright dangerous.

It's also kind of messed up to make someone's medical information public when they're not even a suspect yet. No one has a right to know private psychiatric information of a random person when it's not relevant to their own lives, even if the person in question is definitely a criminal. This guy might be, or he might just be someone who suffered tragic loss. If that happened to me and then my diagnosis ended up in a newspaper along with an insinuation that it made me kill someone I loved, I would end up traumatized for life.


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26 Oct 2016, 12:35 pm

What are you going to do, censor the media?

That's not a good idea. News is news. The more details the better. Maybe they should wait till they know there are actual charges, I'll grant you that. But I'd be terrified the instant a muzzle is put on the media.



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26 Oct 2016, 3:48 pm

Hard for me to have an opinion about this. I don't know if he is behind it or innocent but people are always a suspect when someone disappears when they are close to that person.


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26 Oct 2016, 3:54 pm

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Boston Globe has an in depth article about him. You need a Facebook account to read the article.

A son’s hard times and his mother’s concern

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Some of Carman’s fellow students described him as smart and independent, with a passion for classroom debates about religion and politics. He was an easy target for bullies: Students gave him a hard time over his stiff demeanor, and his Asperger’s made social interaction difficult.

None of the classmates interviewed by the Globe could recall him ever having a friend. While a police affidavit said Carman “was capable of violence when his coping mechanisms were challenged,” classmates said he did not seem threatening, just painfully awkward. Two people recalled that he once got in trouble for bringing a pocketknife to school, though he was not aggressive with it.

Carman went out of his way to avoid conflict, students said. Once, when a student mockingly filmed him with his cellphone in class, Carman simply took the phone until a teacher arrived, another student said.


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Earle Carman said that Linda Carman made sure their son received a range of services, though Nathan was not always enthusiastic about the help.

“She always doted on him, took care of him,” the elder Carman said. “But he was resistant to it. The main thing is the label — autism. That drives him crazy. He’s so functional.”



I refuse to get connected with Facebook just to read the article from what you have posted here, I hope that won't be used against him as evidence if he is indeed innocent. I know in murder cases or disappearance, officers will try and find anything as "proof" so if they hear about him being resistant to his mom's help, they could say he made her disappear.


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26 Oct 2016, 3:57 pm

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Autistic grandson considered person of interest in couple’s murder

This is worse then the case the OP cited because the very first thing anybody knows about the suspect is that he is autistic. I wrote suspect because he has now been charged with the crime.



Is that the same person the OP posted about?


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27 Oct 2016, 12:53 am

League_Girl wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Autistic grandson considered person of interest in couple’s murder

This is worse then the case the OP cited because the very first thing anybody knows about the suspect is that he is autistic. I wrote suspect because he has now been charged with the crime.



Is that the same person the OP posted about?


No


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22 Jul 2017, 10:48 am

Man rescued at sea is said to have killed mom, grandpa for inheritance

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A year after Nathan Carman’s mother vanished at sea while they were fishing, his aunts filed a lawsuit Monday accusing the 23-year-old of killing his grandfather, and possibly his mother, as part of a scheme to collect a multimillion-dollar inheritance.

The so-called “slayer” suit alleges that Carman is the prime suspect in the disappearance and presumed death of his mother, Linda Carman, and the 2013 slaying of his grandfather, John Chakalos. The complaint seeks a court order barring him from collecting any money from their estates.

The “slayer” suit is based on the concept that a killer can’t inherit from a victim.

The court records said that Carman, who has Asperger syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism, “was capable of violence when his coping mechanisms were challenged”


When our coping mechanisms our challenged our reactions are spontaneous. Plotting to kill for inheritance is not a spontaneous act. Carmen still has not been criminally charged.


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23 Jul 2017, 11:19 am

That was disturbing to read. There is too many coincidences for me to say he didn't do it. Same reason why I believe Francis Newton killed her husband and children.


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