London Mayor- 'too many white men'

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31 Oct 2016, 1:21 pm

I personally think one of the best things in life is to crash gates. :wink: My input is just as important as everyone else's. So, I kind -of sneak through security, wherever possible, to prove my philosophical point. If I can, I will enter board meetings, and try to run the place like an employee, or even a stakeholder.

I can back up my right to do this with factoids and historical trivia, while forgetting the concept of social boundaries, all day. It can drag on, for weeks, if necessary. And, you should cover my living expenses while I do it. :roll: Yes, really.

It gives me a special thrill to enter safespaces, wherever there is some special interest, and promote a diametrically-oppostie view, as though I am participating in good faith. I brings cats to the dog show, and dress... Nevermind.

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01 Nov 2016, 4:31 pm

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Obama isn't black, he's mixed race. It's beyond insulting to call a person who's half white "black".

He refers to himself as black. Most White Americans consider him functionally black because of his skin tone and facial features. These are simply social categories. For example, most Black Americans have a humongous chunk of European ancestry. Are they all "mixed race"? That would be defining the racial gap as some objective measure of percentages, akin to an inverse of the "one drop rule" and in opposition to how it's used in actual conversation, as ethnic social classes rooted in history.

The only question as to his "blackness" came from the black community itself, which was on cultural (raised by a white mother) rather than ancestral grounds. The man who raised it, Al Sharpton, himself is verifiably part-European.

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So non whites are all immigrants?

In Britain, anyone not considered white and a good chunk of those who are are of immigrant descent, yes. They either live in historical immigrant communities or have been in Britain long enough to have assimilated.

So the Civil Rights activists did well to have people viewed on skin color, rather than judged by? He isn't black, he's mixed race, very simple. If he's black, where do the white genes go? Africans have European ancestry? You're suddenly switching to where people are from now?

He has one black parent and one white, making him half black and half white, calling him 'black' is ludicrous.

We're not talking about Britain. That's a completely different situation, where people were invited and now pretty much force fed into Britain, where as Africans were dragged into the US completely against their will.

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01 Nov 2016, 4:39 pm

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Obama isn't black, he's mixed race. It's beyond insulting to call a person who's half white "black".

Car crash post 2016 award winner right there^

Switch round what I said and then see how you feel.

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01 Nov 2016, 4:44 pm

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I don't see a problem with this statement. Caucasian heterosexual men are easily the most privileged denomination in most of Europe and North America, economically and politically. I personally theorize that these statements and behaviors are tolerated or even encouraged as a kind of collective moralistic backlash against centuries of mistreatment of minorities or non-whites by European or European descended states.

I know it'll probably end up with me in trouble, as you cannot criticize those with power, but Jews are the most privileged ethnic group in the US by a country mile, and the US has a lot of control over Europe.

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01 Nov 2016, 4:51 pm

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I think he's a simply butthurt the almighty British Empire that conquered 1/4 of Earth was clearly better than his joke of a country being another irrelevant nation whose greatest achievement ever was curry.

Haters gonna hate, they say. I'm not even mad.

I miss London. I have to come back someday.

What? Conquering and colonizing isn't something to be proud of, it's sick. This idiot, Khan, is happy to turn a blind eye to it when the US and the UK is doing it now or supporting it in Africa/Asia, for getting in a position of power and spewing globalist tripe. He's the worst of all.

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01 Nov 2016, 6:24 pm

Can you imagine if white people immigrated en masse to Japan and then stomped their feet and complained that "there are too many Japanese men!"

/facepalm

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01 Nov 2016, 6:45 pm

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Can you imagine if white people immigrated en masse to Japan and then stomped their feet and complained that "there are too many Japanese men!"

/facepalm

Good point. Though offending Japanese is pretty much okay. We even blamed them for us nuking them.

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01 Nov 2016, 8:04 pm

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but Jews are the most privileged ethnic group in the US by a country mile, and the US has a lot of control over Europe.

Which I think is what Mr Hitler said as well about Jews in Germany in the 1920s and 30s....
Of course the fact Jewish people have an extremely hard work ethic and value education more than us "Anglo slobs" has nothing to do with the argument....

On that subject care to explain why your beloved Palestinians supported a Mufti during WWII who worked closely with the Nazis? I never quite understood how that works given the Palestinians weren't a member of the "chosen race"

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02 Nov 2016, 5:01 am

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Africans have European ancestry?

Most black Americans have considerable European ancestry. http://www.theroot.com/articles/history ... americans/

Hence, it has nothing to do with some specific ratio of genetic percentage, whether you're "half" this or "half" that. It has to do with the same phenotype-based colonial-derived color line it has always been sourced from, along with the ethnic cultures that have developed around each end of said color line.

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He has one black parent and one white, making him half black and half white, calling him 'black' is ludicrous.

He does so himself. The only complaint from the black community has been that he was raised by a white mother in a predominantly white environment, and thus doesn't have the same cultural connection to that particular ethnic community that "black" usually connotes. The American color line remains, and in that context he's definitely considered black.

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We're not talking about Britain.

Yes we are. My "immigrant descendants" comment was about communities in London. Which is, y'know, the topic of the thread you created.

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02 Nov 2016, 9:34 am

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The New Observer is a right wing publication that trolls the news media picking up "poor wh***y" stories...

These communities have a right to question public service representation in areas where the community is predominantly 'ethnic"

Exactly. We should be encouraging diversity. To the degree our institutions don't reflect the population, they represent institutional racism.

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02 Nov 2016, 5:03 pm

cyberdad wrote:

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but Jews are the most privileged ethnic group in the US by a country mile, and the US has a lot of control over Europe.

If Hitler said that grass was green, would it make it blue? And I guess that's why Zionist organisations worked with him to get German Jews into Palestine. Are you f**king serious? You sound like Rabbi Yosef who said that us "goyim" are only on earth to serve Jews. They are better at helping each other than we "Anglo slobs" are.

Well because Mufti thought Hitler would help Palestinians get a state if Germany won the war. He knew that Zionists were planning to have their own state and cleanse the native population. I didn't think Japanese were either, but they were on the same side as Hitler.

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02 Nov 2016, 5:09 pm

Pravda wrote:

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Africans have European ancestry?

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He has one black parent and one white, making him half black and half white, calling him 'black' is ludicrous.

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We're not talking about Britain.

Yes we are. My "immigrant descendants" comment was about communities in London. Which is, y'know, the topic of the thread you created.

Please explain how if you know, I haven't got the time to read through pages to find the bit you're talking about.

He can be considered a fish if need be, but he's mixed race.

Yeah sorry I was drunk.

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02 Nov 2016, 7:15 pm

JohnPowell wrote:

They are better at helping each other than we "Anglo slobs" are.

The same argument has been directed at Asians in the 1990s when they became successful in US colleges and universities and took over enrolments. They just work harder.

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Well because Mufti thought Hitler would help Palestinians get a state if Germany won the war. He knew that Zionists were planning to have their own state and cleanse the native population. I didn't think Japanese were either, but they were on the same side as Hitler.

The Japanese at least gave up armed confrontation and are reaping the benefits.

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02 Nov 2016, 7:16 pm

AspE wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Exactly. We should be encouraging diversity. To the degree our institutions don't reflect the population, they represent institutional racism.

Last vestiges of old privilege

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03 Nov 2016, 6:12 am

JohnPowell wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

but Jews are the most privileged ethnic group in the US by a country mile, and the US has a lot of control over Europe.

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03 Nov 2016, 5:59 pm

cyberdad wrote:

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They are better at helping each other than we "Anglo slobs" are.

The same argument has been directed at Asians in the 1990s when they became successful in US colleges and universities and took over enrolments. They just work harder.

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The Japanese at least gave up armed confrontation and are reaping the benefits.

It's not the same argument. How many Asian states would get away with bombing a US ship for 3 hours and trying to blame it on another country? The US would nuke any other country, oh wait, like they did with Japan, when the war was over!

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