cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
The group had every right to feel threatened people had been shouting vile things at them for over an hour when Phillips APPROACHED THEM. In a perfect world they would differentiate between the person approching them, the person next to Phillip’s yelling at them to go back to Europe and Phillip’s. IRL when threatened and when in a new situation the human mind has difficulity making these logical distinctions. The situation was probably new to them.
I'm afraid this is completely inaccurate and falling into the narrative being peddled by the MAGA teen's mother.
Even before these little s**ts starting marching Catholic ethicist and writer Charles Camosy wrote in The Washington Post that the antiabortion March for Life involving the Covington catholic school has been transformed from a broad-based religious fundamentalist human rights movement to being transformed into a mouthpiece for the pro-Trump “Republican or conservative constituency,”
This means the teens were geared to spout pro-Trump nonsense like build the wall (which they were recorded as shouting) and were not really rallying for abortion (I doubt these little thugs even know what the issue of pro-life is about)
Here's some facts for you;
1. The march was organised to protest abortion yet the Covington boys were wearing MAGA hats
2. The teens had been filmed at basketball games being racist at opposition teams
3. They were filmed sexually harrasing girls along the march
4. There were hundreds of schoolboys but only four black Israelites. Therefore there was never any physical threat to the Covington schoolboys as falsely claimed by the mother and by Fox news
5. The boys and their adult minders crossed the street away from the main march in order to confront the 4 black Israelites
(the black Israelites were preoccupied with shouting obscenities at people on their side of the street (mainly aimed at African Americans who are actually their target audience). Fox news made it sound like the blacks were there to specifically target the march (another falsehood)
6. The black Israelites were known to the Covington school boys (i.e. no shock at their behaviour), the boys targeted them because they were bored of the antiabortion march and thought it would be more fun to chant pro-Trump slogans at the "blacks" and incite them
7. Nathan Phillips was concerned for the welfare of the 4 black men surrounded by the hundred or so youth (he never intended to accost the kids to cause trouble as his group was badly outnumbered) (another falsehood)
6. The teenagers behind the MAGA teen facing off with Phillips were i) shouting the n-word and ii) racially abusing native Americans. They apparently did not care what Phillip's intentions were as they assumed since he was not white he was lumped in with the blacks.
7. The MAGA teen's face off at 64 yr old Phillips was classic school boy intimidation knowing he had hundreds of thugs to back him up he was smugly daring the tiny group of native Americans to do something to provide a trigger to fight. There was absolutely nothing brave about the little coward's behavior
8. Somehow the adult minders with the school boys managed to avoid responsibility despite egging on the teens.
As I said before - the teens were lying through their teeth even though the evidence is on film
I have never seen Sandmann’s mother interviewed.
The Covington “blackout days” on video was filmed before these students attended that school.
Where did you get the information that the Black Hebrew Israelites were known to the kids? This seems unlikely as they are only in a few cities and I do not remember reading or seeing any stories about them.
While I read accounts of this I and several other people have not seen a kid yell build a wall or yell racial slurs at blacks.
I know all to well what it is like to deal with a group of kids who want to bully me these kids actions did not resemble that.
Philiips has no credibility in anything he says. He is an attention seeking liar who has engaged in a bahavior known as “stolen valor”. Embellisment of ones military record is part of the colloquial definition of stolen valor.
Tribal elder in viral standoff video was not a Vietnam veteran, military records showQuote:
The Native American tribal elder who became the focus of a viral social media controversy over the weekend is not a Vietnam veteran, the U.S. Marine Corps confirmed Wednesday.
Nathan Phillips, 64, spent four years in the Marine Corps Reserve and left in 1976 with the rank of private, or E-1, the Marines said in a statement providing his personal releasable information.
He never deployed, but served as a refrigerator technician and anti-tank missileman; he was awarded the National Defense Service Medal the records show.
Military Times sent a request to the Marine Corps for Phillips service record on Monday.
In past media interviews he has been described as a veteran of the Vietnam War and he had previously described himself as a “Recon ranger” who had served during “Vietnam times.”
Stolen valor: Native American activist Nathan Phillips lied that he was a 'Vietnam vet' in Facebook videoQuote:
Nathan Phillips, the Native American leader who accused Covington Catholic High School students of harassing him last Friday, falsely claimed in a 2018 Facebook video that he was a “Vietnam vet” and served “in theater.”
But now, Phillips has been shown claiming outright that he served in the Vietnam War in a video posted to the Native Youth Alliance Facebook page last January.
I’m a Vietnam vet, you know, I served in the Marine Corps, ’72 to ’76," Phillips said in the video. "I got discharged May 5th 1976, you know. One of the — I got honorable discharge — and one of the boxes in there, it shows if it was peacetime, or what my box says is that I was in theater. I don't talk much about my Vietnam times, you know. I usually say I don't recollect, I don't recall, you know, those years."
Phillips, 63, has previously suggested that he might have served in the war, referring to himself in interviews as a “Vietnam times veteran” and a “recon ranger" and stating: "People called me a baby killer and a hippie girl spit on me.”
I knew a guy who got abused liked that upon returning home from ‘Nam. If it was me that fought in Vietnam and returned home to be spit at and called baby killer and ran into Phillips I would do something that would land me in prison.
The Covington students are not angles or brave but teenagers who acted like stupid jerks some of the time as teens are want to do
I saw one kid yell “It’s not rape if you enjoy it”.
Their chants and tomahawk chops after Phillips started drumming sounded like mocking to me.
But I also heard the “bigots” roundly boo the Black Israelites when they called somebody a fa***t.
I have spoken about my contempt for how the school and the so called chaprones handled this before in this thread. If I was the parents would be suing the school besides the media.
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05 Feb 2019, 12:53 am
for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.
