16yo Thunberg: She’s the MVP Aspie of the world! IMO

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Oh the irony
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ven-hassan

Commies love murder.



Greta Thunberg tells cheering crowd 'we will make sure we put world leaders against the wall' if they do not tackle global warming as she attends climate protest in Turin

Greta Thunberg told cheering protesters today 'we will make sure we put world leaders against the wall' if they fail to take urgent action on climate change.

The Swedish teen activist was addressing the crowd at a Fridays for Future protest in Turin, Italy.

She arrived there from Madrid where she had been attending the UN climate summit but said she feared the event would not lead to change.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ation.html

This probably explains one of the reasons why high profile people have targeted Greta Thunberg. Many people are unable to consider that a 16 yr old is a stakeholder in how actions today impact on the future. Trying to cast doubt about her maturity, lack of life experience or her autism,

Trump's attack on Greta's autism and Melania Trump's defence of her husband smack of enormous hypocrisy given their "outrage" over autism labels being thrown at Barron Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-husband/

So does the far right...what's your point? frightened of a teenage child?

In fairness, to "put someone up against the wall" is a swedish expression that essentially means to demand an answer from someone and not let them dodge the question. Though she might mean it in the international way, who knows.

Ah yes, that bastion of impartiality that is the Guardian.

https://electroverse.net/the-list-scien ... te-change/

Thing is, I dont even object to operating on the assumption that anthropogenic climate change is happening. At worst we'll have cleaner air and oceans than we might've had otherwhise. I'm more suspicious about the people wanting to start a panic over it and acting as though giving them money and power is the only option. Capone would ve proud.

ROTFLMAO !
11,000 "scientists" including such luminaries as Albus Dumbledore, Don L. Duck and Micky Mouse.



That '11,000 scientists' number comes from a fake-ass astroturfing scheme which hosted an open petition on an OSU web server. Very few of the signatories are actually scientists- let alone scientists conversant in any field relating to the subject matter.

No point in re-inventing the wheel so I'll just leave you with this:

The concern is more along the lines of how she is being used.

Exactly my point. Tit for tat as usual.




https://medium.com/@adddramabutton/this ... 02301e6bf5

I don't know for Greta Thunberg but personally, I'm the Noone of the year for the 34th consecutive time.

(Joke aside, I am very happy for her that she manages to do all this while having to deal with the byproducts of autism. On the climate itself, and her fight, I have no idea though)

I've looked up the research. I have a more advanced science degree than she does. I trust myself.

What you call brave just sounds fun to me. I would happily do that to try and get our soldiers out of the Middle East. I'm autistic. If I make a video and be dirty for a couple of weeks, will I get the same support? Of course not. Because the same people who support a government intervention (a global government imposing world taxes) are the same exact people who lied about why we're at war in the Middle East for two decades and have been meddling in their affairs for 70.

So many gullible people out there. I am not one.

This is not true.

And I don't know of any proposal for a world tax. The proposals I am aware of are similar to action taken in the past to deal with other polluting chemicals; there is usually an agreement between the countries of the world for each country to take action, and then the action is taken at the national level.

If people want more info on what is going on in this thread, read up on the global warming conspiracy theory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_wa ... acy_theory

Ok I'll aim my response to your post as you are alone seem to be capable of critical thinking.

Your assertions aren't new. The oil lobby have long disputed the other (more widely used) statistic that 97% of climate change scientists support anthropogenic (combustion of fossil fuels) climate change.

Forbes Business Journal asked a retired ex-oil executive and academic Earl Ritchie to put forward an alternative case and he does infact do a good job fact-checking and debunking the over published statistic of 97% of climate scientists using (ironically) similar reasoning to your own sources that the 97% number was also based on an error that had been picked up and published by the media .
https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2 ... 0fedc31157

So it's not surprising or earth shattering that the exact figure of 11,000 scientists or 97% of scientists is not accurate

However, Ritchie is very careful to point out (something you conveniently ignore when you pulled the names of Professor Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck) is that just because the number is not accurate it doesn't change the magnitude of the problem.

Ritchie concludes
Even though belief is clearly below 97%, support over 80% is strong consensus. Would a lower level of consensus convince anyone concerned about anthropogenic global warming to abandon their views and advocate unrestricted burning of fossil fuels? I think not. Even the 2016 Cook paper says “From a broader perspective, it doesn’t matter if the consensus number is 90% or 100%.”

So coming from a strong advocate for the oil industry, Earl Ritchie at least has the integrity to admit that criticism of the climate change lobby doesn't devalue their argument that anthropogenic climate change is infact real and evidence based.

I hope this article teaches you a lesson in critical thinking, you claim to be impartial on these issues but obviously just jumped into the "dark side" for the sake of winning brownie points with the resident WP "Trump cheer squad".

Nobody cares if the actual number of scientists is really 10,000 or 9,000 (not 11,000) or if the % of climate change scientists is 80-90% and not 97% as either revised number indicates there is still a problem for planet earth.

chances are that when the earth is finally burning, the promulgators of global warming denial will be long gone, having gotten away scot-free with destroying our world. only their maga sycophants will be left holding the bag.

The oil companies are all just innocent seekers of truth, and are helpless victims of the global conspiracy.

The conspiracy capo, the godfather, is Greta Thunberg.

Any climate scientists in the world who is brave enough to break ranks and deny man made climate change ...Greta puts out a contract on them. The scientist is "taken for a ride" along the nearest river, and is fitted with a pair of cement shoes, and "sleeps with the fishes".